10/24 (BC/Friday): F&M Sprint; F&M Turf (Final)

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Odds from DRF (graded entries), Ladbrookes & William Hill... Courtesy of CristBlog..

Filly & Mare Turf (Horse DRF-LAD-HILL)

Communique 20 25 16
Dynaforce 8 8 6
Folk Opera (IRE) 10 8 11
Forever Together 4 6 5
Goldikova (IRE) 2.5 3
Halfway To Heaven (IRE) 3 4 4.5
Mauralakana (FR) 5 7 5
Precious Kitten 6
Pure Clan 15 8 12
Sealy Hill 20 33 33
Vacare 15 16 14
Visit (GB) 30 10 12
Wait a While 3.5 4 5

first time i've seen a horse's race comments as "DQ'd drug positive"

I would LOVE to see Goldikova run against these, its hard to knock anything on her resume, especially since she's coming DOWN in class after beating older males last out in a G1.........

-bt-

[Antitrust32]

anyone feel that Pure Clan has a shot?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

anyone feel that Pure Clan has a shot?

She's definitely in the mix for last.

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

She's definitely in the mix for last.

With the setup Pure Clan most likely will get, she will suck up for second to last.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

anyone feel that Pure Clan has a shot?

For last or second to last?

[CSC]

I think Dyaforce may be a little bit of a dangerous overlay in here, she had a soft lead in her last however she doesn't need the lead, she's a very consistent mare. Looks like Folk Opera will set the pace with P. kitten out of this race with Halfway to Heaven and Wait A While pressing.

[Alan07]

Indyanne 90 percent out of F&M Sprint

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Alan07

Indyanne out of F&M Sprint

damn it

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Originally Posted by Scav

damn it

please tell me you're upset b/c you wanted to toss her?

-bt-

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by Alan07

Indyanne 90 percent out of F&M Sprint

She got the post 2 "fever."

[letswastemoney]

Dream Rush and Dearest Tricksi both only know one way to run.......should be interesting first quarter

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Dream Rush and Dearest Tricksi both only know one way to run.......should be interesting first quarter

Why does no one on here seem to like Indian Blessing, at around 2-1 possibly, she will get a dream trip in this race, but ppl love Zenyatta vs a much harder group at 2-5 ? ?

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by hrfan

Why does no one on here seem to like Indian Blessing, at around 2-1 possibly, she will get a dream trip in this race, but ppl love Zenyatta vs a much harder group at 2-5 ? ?

She might not like synthetics as much? She's been racing on dirt for most of the year. It's hard to tell if this surface will make a few lengths difference.

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

She might not like synthetics as much? She's been racing on dirt for most of the year. It's hard to tell if this surface will make a few lengths difference.

I think she clearly does, won over it earlier in the year with a decent beyer off of a latoff, working great over it, and should get the best trip of all at a decent price for her.

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Originally Posted by hrfan

I think she clearly does, won over it earlier in the year with a decent beyer off of a latoff, working great over it, and should get the best trip of all at a decent price for her.

2-1 on her is shaky, a lot of questions surround her. This isn't a 4 horse field of 3YO's, she's gonna get bumped around and at that ML price i'm looking elsewhere for value, b/c there is a lot of value in this race

-bt-

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

She clearly does? Have you seen her races on dirt vs. synthetics? I think she's off the board.

your pick is off the board

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

She clearly does? Have you seen her races on dirt vs. synthetics? I think she's off the board.

do you mean her 1 race, first as a 3 yr old, off a layoff, where she earned a 92 beyer ?

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by hrfan

Why does no one on here seem to like Indian Blessing, at around 2-1 possibly, she will get a dream trip in this race, but ppl love Zenyatta vs a much harder group at 2-5 ? ?

She is this year's version of Dream Rush - has dominated the 3yo fillies sprinting but hasn't met the really good older sprinters (that lot at Belmont were not much, all 3 of them). But because she was 2yo champion and Baffert is talking her up, she is getting a lot of press. She may be on a par with the older female sprinters, but she hasn't proven it yet and her price will be too low, taking that into account.

Zenyatta, on the other hand, has beaten last year's champion Ginger Punch (who has beaten nearly everything else on the East Coast), has beaten Hystericalady (as has Ginger Punch). IMHO, Hystericalady has had a nice career and made a good bit of money by showing up where the heavy-weights aren't running. Carriage Trail is a wildcard, since she hadn't been running in the top division until the Spinster.

Speaking of which..., There was an article in the Lexington paper a couple of days before the Spinster about Unbridled Belle. It turns out that two races previously she had flipped in the paddock and run below par. Then the next time she went to the paddock for a race, she started shaking like a leaf, came a distant third in a race that was right up her alley. They were hoping that if she kept coming to the paddock and DIDN'T get hurt again, she would settle down and run her race, but she was not a happy camper on Spinster day and finished down the track (I got off her - Carriage Trail was the next best). I saw none of this talked about in the industry press and wonder if it comes as news to you folks. It wasn't as if they were making a secret of it.

[hockey2315]

They talked about Undbridled Belle flipping in the paddock during the coverage of that race. I'm still not sure why she gets any attention or respect.

Regarding Indian Blessing - she is superior to any older female sprinter. There aren't really (m)any good ones anyways. But, of course, it comes down to surface. She barely held off Golden Doc A (granted, that was a while ago, on a different surface, etc.) in her one synthetic start. If she takes to the surface and runs her race, the only horse that can really beat her is Zaftig because we're still not sure how good Zaftig is or how she'll like the Pro-Ride. But at 2-1 or less she's worth playing against. I'll be using Ventura and Zaftig in my PK3s. . . If slow-as-molasses Intangaroo wins I give up. . .

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Regarding Indian Blessing - she is superior to any older female sprinter. .

My request arises from respectful curiosity; on what do you base this statement? I am always interested in how other, probably better, handicappers make these judgments.