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Old 09-30-2008, 09:40 PM
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Yeah, but both of your above posts are talking about horses being TIED with legends in the record book. That's not what we are talking about here. We are talking about her breaking the record. Of course nobody will forget Citation and Cigar if their record is broken. That isn't the point at all. Nobody forgot Dan Marino just because his records were broken, but does that mean I have to hope they do get broken? I dont think so. I like Dan Marino better than Brett Favre. Therefore, I wanted Marino rather than Favre to have those records. For this record, I like some of the current record holders better than Peppers Pride, therefore I want them - rather than her - to have the record. It is pretty much that simple.

Why don't you just admit your real motivation here? You - like the rest of "them" - just hate Hang Glide and want to see her lose. ;)

lol

i just think if she does break it, that it'll become another basically meaningless record. whether that matters or not, i don't know. most record holders for various distances are unknowns, she'll be anonymous along with them. i think most folks can only name one or two world record holders at most....

but i see your point, i can't argue with it at all.

now, that rat hang glide....arghhh.
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Old 10-01-2008, 07:41 AM
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I take back what I said. I'm fascinated by that picture of the Marrs. Anyone have any more?
Those are actually Allens, but I knew it would draw you in....












Mighty compelling, eh?
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Old 10-01-2008, 07:56 AM
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There's no hate. Just not understanding why this hose is counting towards Cigar and Citation's win streaks but not Camarero's 56 consecutive wins. Running with NM breds is the equivalent of running in Puerto Rico.
You are underestimating the talent in Puerto Rico - probably.
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Old 10-02-2008, 04:24 PM
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For anyone interested... Baffert on Pepper...


http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...pers-Pride.php
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Old 10-02-2008, 04:37 PM
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She was from the 2003 foal crop - which means that she is 1 of exactly 750 horses foaled in the state of New Mexico that year.

Let's assume half of which were male and half of which were female.

That means she's one of 375 females.

Keep in mind - there are always going to be some that never make the races. I also believe New Mexico breds from that time were by sires and dams worth about however much meat they have on their bone.

I don't see anything at all impressive about this horse. Being the best New Mexico bred is like being the prettiest girl at the fat camp.
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Old 10-02-2008, 04:42 PM
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I don't see anything at all impressive about this horse. Being the best New Mexico bred is like being the prettiest girl at the fat camp.
'jever ride a MoPed?
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Old 10-02-2008, 04:45 PM
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Being the best New Mexico bred ever is like being the least biggest tard to ever post in the politcs/society forum on this site.
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Old 10-04-2008, 04:23 PM
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She won.
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Old 10-04-2008, 04:25 PM
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She won.
She got it, and I'm glad.


I've been watching racing since before most of you were born.

I love and respect the history and nostalgia of this sport.

Peppers Pride steps into deserved territory that history will appreciate appropriately.
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Old 10-04-2008, 04:51 PM
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Joe Allen's restuarant is awesome. Good food, huge portions. I dont care about New Mexico racing though.
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Old 10-04-2008, 06:56 PM
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Joe Allen's restuarant is awesome. Good food, huge portions. I dont care about New Mexico racing though.

No one has ever accused you of having your priorities messed up, have they?
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:49 PM
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No one has ever accused you of having your priorities messed up, have they?
A man has to eat right?

I dont care if they give New Mexico back to old Mexico. Though Zia Park has a certain zing to it.
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Old 10-04-2008, 08:12 PM
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congrats to the pride of new mexico, pepper's pride. lol and here's to those who failed geography and don't think new mexico is part of the 50 states....

she won't go down as the greatest in history, but she is now considered the most consistent. she's carved out her own little tiny place in horse racing lore.
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:13 PM
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there is a horse in south dakota who has won 29 in a row
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:42 PM
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Peppers Pride makes me nostalgic for Hallowed Dreams.

It's amusing to see a horse go 17-for-17 when they parlay a perfect trip into a 1.75 length margin of victory at level weight over a filly who has run Beyers of 73, 73, and 60 in her 3 most recent starts...and was beaten at Ruidoso Downs last time out.

Hallowed Dreams won her first 16 races to start her career - and 23 of her first 24 - she ran 10 triple digit Beyers - including a top of 111.

I remember some mocking her because they kept her in the state of La - the horses who were finishing last in those races could have probably trounced Pepper's Pride.
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Old 10-04-2008, 10:04 PM
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hallowed dreams reminds me of happy ticket for some reason didnt she also win quite a few in a row at a nice class level
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Old 10-04-2008, 10:15 PM
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I don't believe HD ever won anything more than a Grade 3 stake - if that.
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Old 10-04-2008, 10:51 PM
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I don't believe HD ever won anything more than a Grade 3 stake - if that.
Only listed stakes, never tried graded company.
She hardly ever trailed at any point of call in her career.
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Old 10-04-2008, 10:58 PM
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congrats to the pride of new mexico, pepper's pride. lol and here's to those who failed geography and don't think new mexico is part of the 50 states....

she won't go down as the greatest in history, but she is now considered the most consistent. she's carved out her own little tiny place in horse racing lore.
I couldn't agree more. Definately not the best, hats off to Joel Marr though..lol. What a joke, if she was that good, why not have her step up and face something other then what she ran against. A 35K optional claimer??? I mean come on, Personal Ensign, Cigar and Citation did it the right way. This is like a division 3 school winning 17 in row, Cigar and Citation were division 1. If I was Joel I would feel like mud...I can picture him in a bar...My horse won 17 in a row...oh yeah where did she run and who did she beat? New Mexico and a bunch of pigs. Feel proud Joel, really proud.
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Old 10-04-2008, 11:10 PM
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You can't fault someone for placing a horse where they belong.

This isn't an impressive accomplishment though. There are fillies and mares who run for high priced claiming tags on the major circuits who would be deserving favorites over her.

By keeping PP racing against New Mexico breds - it's not like they're depriving the sport of much.
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