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Old 09-18-2008, 11:57 PM
SniperSB23 SniperSB23 is offline
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Mambo in Seattle has a chance. We don't know for sure how good he is, since he's an improving 3 year old. Sure there's a chance he might not improve in this race....but he might also improve by 5 or 10 beyer points. It's better than taking Curlin at whatever short, short price he will be.
As an improving 3yo he might have a chance at a horse like Delightful Kiss this year. This 3yo crop is so atrocious though that to think a horse that just lost a head bob to Colonel John is going to contend with Curlin is delusional at best and clinically insane at worst.
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:09 AM
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As an improving 3yo he might have a chance at a horse like Delightful Kiss this year. This 3yo crop is so atrocious though that to think a horse that just lost a head bob to Colonel John is going to contend with Curlin is delusional at best and clinically insane at worst.
your wrong, and you sound delusional yourself... Curlins last 3 have been nothing more then average... If Mambo improves 5-10 points off of his last he is right there, take into mind the fact that Curlin could be regressing at this point in his career... i have to be clear where i stand, i will use mambo in all bets, wont be suprised if he wins, and also wont be suprised if curlin blows him away.... Is that fair ?
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:20 AM
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your wrong, and you sound delusional yourself... Curlins last 3 have been nothing more then average... If Mambo improves 5-10 points off of his last he is right there, take into mind the fact that Curlin could be regressing at this point in his career... i have to be clear where i stand, i will use mambo in all bets, wont be suprised if he wins, and also wont be suprised if curlin blows him away.... Is that fair ?
Improves 5-10 points? You don't think that is asking a little more than reasonable?

And no, that isn't clear, that is ballless and clear that you have no clue where you stand.
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:22 AM
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Improves 5-10 points? You don't think that is asking a little more than reasonable?

And no, that isn't clear, that is ballless and clear that you have no clue where you stand.
balless ? what about you praising a horse that will be 1-5, that is clearly not running his A races as of late
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:24 AM
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balless ? what about you praising a horse that will be 1-5, that is clearly not running his A races as of late
You said you are taking the second favorite but not against the favorite. Maybe idiocy is the term I was looking for. If you don't have a solid opinion then it isn't a race you bet. I'll wait to see entries and hope I can beat Mambo in Seattle and play some longer shots under Curlin to make the race playable. If that doesn't happen I won't play the race.
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:25 AM
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You said you are taking the second favorite but not against the favorite. Maybe idiocy is the term I was looking for. If you don't have a solid opinion then it isn't a race you bet. I'll wait to see entries and hope I can beat Mambo in Seattle and play some longer shots under Curlin to make the race playable. If that doesn't happen I won't play the race.
i doubt you will be playing the race then
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:28 AM
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i doubt you will be playing the race then
An overrated 3yo coming to take on elders? I have a feeling I will be if Mambo goes off as the second choice and anything more than Barcola shows up.
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:22 AM
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Improves 5-10 points? You don't think that is asking a little more than reasonable?

And no, that isn't clear, that is ballless and clear that you have no clue where you stand.
Thanks. I'm glad someone finally brought the conversation back to reality as 5-10 point move-ups off of races like the one MIS ran in the Travers are frequent, right?

Mambo in Seattle is a nice horse and Neil Howard is clearly very high on him. But capable of beating Curlin? Only with an unbelievably perfect trip and some hardships for the big guy. I'd also need much more than the 5-1 he'll be if that's the best-case scenario.

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Old 09-19-2008, 12:23 AM
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Thanks. I'm glad someone finally brought the conversation back to reality as 5-10 point move-ups off of races like the one MIS ran in the Travers are frequent, right?

Mambo in Seattle is a nice horse and Neil Howard is clearly very high on him. But capable of beating Curlin? Only with an unbelievably perfect trip and some hardships for the big guy. I'd also need much more than the 5-1 he'll be if that's the best-case scenario.

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5-1 ? if he's 5-1 i will be betting a ton on him... he will be more like 5-2 or 3-1 clear cut second choice, obvious wise guy horse
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:22 AM
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Curlins last 3 would still beat Mambo In Seattle IMO. Maybe he'll improve leap and bounds, but he'll need to. Obviously at 2-5 Curlin can't be bet, but at 5-2 can Mambo? I'm just thinking we'll see Curlin's "A" race if he's in the gate next Saturday.
are you ignoring me ?
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