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Old 09-09-2008, 09:48 PM
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I get it from blogs on the intranet and CNN. This is wrong?

She's a religious nut, plain and simple. No place for that being a heartbeat away from leading the country.
they're throwing everything against the wall to see what will stick. there is nothing to suggest she's a nut.

from factcheck

"Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska's schools. She has said that students should be allowed to "debate both sides" of the evolution question, but she also said creationism "doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:52 PM
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they're throwing everything against the wall to see what will stick. there is nothing to suggest she's a nut.

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"Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska's schools. She has said that students should be allowed to "debate both sides" of the evolution question, but she also said creationism "doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."
debate this in a Science classroom.
No one has ever prohibited this debate in public schools, ever.
You just don't debate it in a Science classroom for terribly obvious reasons.

How many frikkn times does the Supreme Court have to take this up again...
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:04 PM
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Isn't it obvious how she feels about creationism? Sorry, to me, thats nutty.
to me too, i'm an atheist! but to me its not anywhere near the most important aspect of what makes a good leader.

does Obamas church teach something other than creationism? or any other candidate past or present. how many come out and say I don't believe in creationism?
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:12 PM
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Not many, which is a whole other issue. And Obama has his issues with Reverend Wright. I know. He isn't my ideal candidate, but to me, he's the lesser of two evils, which scares me.

I haven't decided who is the lesser of two evils yet, but it infuriates me to have to vote like that
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:14 PM
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I haven't decided who is the lesser of two evils yet, but it infuriates me to have to vote like that
We have much better choices this election.
Much.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:19 PM
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We have much better choices this election.
Much.

better than bush/gore, bush/kerry. but that's not saying much.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:48 PM
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better than bush/gore, bush/kerry. but that's not saying much.
We might get 70% of the registered voters.
That says a hell of a lot. Close to an all-time high
since figures have been accurately taken.

When was the last time 70% showed up at the polls?
We hear the same thing every damn year. Bad choices.
I disagree with the vehemence of a ... of a...
ill-tempered marmot.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:20 PM
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I haven't decided who is the lesser of two evils yet, but it infuriates me to have to vote like that
what is the saying kev...the lesser of two evils is still evil?
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:39 PM
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mr. smooth put his foot in his mouth again today, with a reference to "putting lipstick on a pig". He will deny it had anything to do with Palin, but whatever he says the audience got it and so will everyone else.

For a guy that ran a great primary campaign, he has turned into a walking disaster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPd4yk0x-eg
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Old 09-10-2008, 12:30 AM
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Come on man. You're a lot smarter than this. It has nothing to do with Palin. It's a figure of speech. Only people that view Palin as a pig will take like that. Wait....
you're so wrong, it doesn't matter if its a figure of speech, it has a different context at the moment that anyone can understand, I'm sure you got it.
the only thing it does is take him further off his message, he'll be responding tomorrow all day long in the news cycle to this comment, all his talking heads will be deflecting it in the media. it simply did not look presidential and showed horrible judgement. no one believes me but this is total amatuer hour and he is in freefall and if he is not careful this race could be all over but the shouting way earlier than even I predicted.
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Old 09-10-2008, 12:38 AM
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Wager?
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:37 AM
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you're so wrong, it doesn't matter if its a figure of speech, it has a different context at the moment that anyone can understand, I'm sure you got it.
the only thing it does is take him further off his message, he'll be responding tomorrow all day long in the news cycle to this comment, all his talking heads will be deflecting it in the media. it simply did not look presidential and showed horrible judgement. no one believes me but this is total amatuer hour and he is in freefall and if he is not careful this race could be all over but the shouting way earlier than even I predicted.
you may be right that this issue will take everyone off the topic at hand. my homepage is set up with, among other things, links to ap news. only three links, but guess what one of them was this morning? when i saw your post, i went back to get that link, and read the story.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26630854/
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Old 09-10-2008, 07:43 AM
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no one believes me but
For some reason I feel like a lot of your sentences in future political discussions will start like this.
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Old 09-10-2008, 11:41 AM
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This is the swift boat stuff Part Deux.

It's dirty, it was expected, but like McCain's choice of Palin, stinks of desperation. Amateur hour is acting and making this a big deal. So now that we've resorted to yet another election like this, I can only imagine what else the good ol' boys have up their sleeve.
Bring out the dates with White Women. That's gunna be what they use if they starting getting behind, and need a miracle.
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Old 09-10-2008, 12:59 PM
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This is the swift boat stuff Part Deux.

It's dirty, it was expected, but like McCain's choice of Palin, stinks of desperation. Amateur hour is acting like and making it a big deal. So now that we've resorted to yet another election like this, I can only imagine what else the good ol' boys have up their sleeve.
how did the good ole boys get Obama to use a dumb punchline that referenced a pig with lipstick and and old rotting fish when talking about what he claims are the stale policies of his opponents Palin and McCain? why would a presidential candidate use a line like that? even if you buy into the fact that it was an innocent oversight and no double entendre was to be inferred (which I don't buy for a minute because they are certainly not that stupid), isn't there a better way to make your point and not have that point totally lost in the clamor over the remark?

secondly, do you think for one minute that the first time Palin makes a mistake or gaffe, innocent or not, that it won't be pounced on within minutes by team Obama, in an effort to score points? if you don't then I have a bridge to nowhere to sell you.
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