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Old 09-09-2008, 07:41 PM
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I think it's far from 'nonsense' to call Dr. Decter a bet against. He obviously can win, but is an almost certain underlay.
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:59 PM
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Say what you want about the Fat Man but he can break down a race. Hes posted some nice winners on this board. Keep up the good work Fat Man. KP
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:41 PM
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I think it's far from 'nonsense' to call Dr. Decter a bet against. He obviously can win, but is an almost certain underlay.
we are talking about a pick 6 no..getting legs..in
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:28 PM
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I think it's far from 'nonsense' to call Dr. Decter a bet against. He obviously can win, but is an almost certain underlay.
I remember him well from betting him in his Spa debut at 8-1, a questionable ride and inexperience were the only things that kept him from winning that race, saying that I can understand people not being on him at 8/5. Still I would never call him a bet against.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:29 PM
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I remember him well from betting him in his Spa debut at 8-1, a questionable ride and inexperience were the only things that kept him from winning that race, saying that I can understand people not being on him at 8/5. Still I would never call him a bet against.

What was questionable about the ride? He broke slowly and moved up into perfect position. What exactly should the rider have done differently?
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:36 PM
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I'm pretty sure he wasn't 8-1 in his debut either.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:39 PM
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I'm pretty sure he wasn't 8-1 in his debut either.

He was.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:54 PM
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He was.
Seems like good value. Must've been all of you meanies yelling at me that he was an 'obvious toss' that made me retroactively not bet him.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:55 PM
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Seems like good value. Must've been all of you meanies yelling at me he was an 'obvious toss' that made me retroactively not bet him.

Well, then, we were right.

However, I doubt I said he was an " obvious " toss. Not, however, the kind of horse I would bet.
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It's official....after today I really don't like Channing Hill.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:44 PM
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What was questionable about the ride? He broke slowly and moved up into perfect position. What exactly should the rider have done differently?
I saw it a little differently, I thought Coa moved a little early on the horse. Perhaps if the horse was much the best it would have been not mattered. But he probably is just an "ok" type.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:52 PM
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I saw it a little differently, I thought Coa moved a little early on the horse. Perhaps if the horse was much the best it would have been not mattered. But he probably is just an "ok" type.

I don't know if he necessarily " moved early " in as much as he sort of had no choice after being squeezed out after the start. The only real chance he probably had was to get into the race. His trip obviously compromised him but IMO it's an unfair oversimplification to claim it was jockey error. He was more a victim of circumstance.
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:27 PM
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I don't know if he necessarily " moved early " in as much as he sort of had no choice after being squeezed out after the start. The only real chance he probably had was to get into the race. His trip obviously compromised him but IMO it's an unfair oversimplification to claim it was jockey error. He was more a victim of circumstance.
That's an interesting point of view I never thought of, I certainly wasn't angry with Coa after that race, my initial thought was it was simply a missed opportunity knowing it was unlikely he would be a decent price his next start.
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