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Old 08-17-2006, 04:58 PM
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Yep, here we go again! This guy is gonna get the same treatment the Ramsey's got, people learn nothing! He may be a sick bird, certainly he's hard to like based on available information...all the more important he gets a fair trial and folks wait until after he's judged by the legal system to draw conclusions! Our legal system is NOT a popularity contest...if we don't hold true to the rule of law we are no longer a civilized society!
Somer, I apologize if you thought I was convicting him without a trial-- I actually thought Mr. Ramsey was pretty classy with what he said about not doing this guy like the Ramseys were done-- I was trying to clarify that pedophiles are not the same thing as homosexuals and implying they are is untrue and unfair to homosexuals. Since Gander is still referring to him as a "flaming homo" despite the fact the man was married at one time in his life and has not, to anything I've read, ever been involved with adult males, clearly my arguments are falling on deaf ears.

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Old 08-17-2006, 05:23 PM
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Somer, I apologize if you thought I was convicting him without a trial-- I actually thought Mr. Ramsey was pretty classy with what he said about not doing this guy like the Ramseys were done-- I was trying to clarify that pedophiles are not the same thing as homosexuals and implying they are is untrue and unfair to homosexuals. Since Gander is still referring to him as a "flaming homo" despite the fact the man was married at one time in his life and has not, to anything I've read, ever been involved with adult males, clearly my arguments are falling on deaf ears.

Yes, you are right. Innocent until proven guilty.

My post wasn't directed towards you, Genuine Risk...there has been a lot of crap posted here and at ESPN about this, of course in the case of ESPN...I have to consider the source!
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Old 08-17-2006, 06:03 PM
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The only problem is the guy seems more than willing to take the blame (which is not to say he did it, but if he didn't he apparently wishes he had). It's pretty hard to say it's just like how the Ramsey's got treated.
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Old 08-17-2006, 06:25 PM
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The only problem is the guy seems more than willing to take the blame (which is not to say he did it, but if he didn't he apparently wishes he had). It's pretty hard to say it's just like how the Ramsey's got treated.
In both cases, folks jump to conclusions without hearing the facts! I agree this guy wants to take the rap...whether that's due to guilt feelings, psychosis or attention-seeking only a jury can sort out! He's hard to like, everybody is gonna want him to be guilty...that makes it absolutely necessary that he gets a fair trial!
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Old 08-17-2006, 06:45 PM
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In both cases, folks jump to conclusions without hearing the facts! I agree this guy wants to take the rap...whether that's due to guilt feelings, psychosis or attention-seeking only a jury can sort out! He's hard to like, everybody is gonna want him to be guilty...that makes it absolutely necessary that he gets a fair trial!
Somer,
Now that's something I totally agree with you on.
This guy gives me the creeps, but he's entitled to the same system of justice as all of us are.
He might be a "grandstander"...I don't know.
He might be a pedophile...again, I don't know.
Does he deserve a "fair trial"? That I do know.
Give him a fair trial, and let the jury decide.
I'm all in favor of justice.

btw...I agree with GR. There is a very big difference between homosexuality and pedophiles. Both are outside "acceptable behavior" by many in our society. Gay people don't usually murder children. I don't know why others are so threatened by them. They should be allowed to find whatever they want with consenting adults.
Pedophiles are repugnant...whether with little boys or little girls.
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Old 08-17-2006, 06:52 PM
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You guys are taking my tongue in cheek humor too seriously. You really should lighten up. First and foremost I feel terrible for what this poor family has been and is still going through. Secondily I have nothing against gay people. I have a couple of friends who like to play pattycake with the same sex, dont bother me at all. Third, I was seriously appalled by the guy's photo. He looks like a psycopath and I hope the truth comes out. What the hell is he doing living in Thailand anyways and writing letters to the family? Surely a guy his age can find better things to do with his time.

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Old 08-17-2006, 08:20 PM
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You guys are taking my tongue in cheek humor too seriously. You really should lighten up. First and foremost I feel terrible for what this poor family has been and is still going through. Secondily I have nothing against gay people. I have a couple of friends who like to play pattycake with the same sex, dont bother me at all. Third, I was seriously appalled by the guy's photo. He looks like a psycopath and I hope the truth comes out. What the hell is he doing living in Thailand anyways and writing letters to the family? Surely a guy his age can find better things to do with his time.

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Thanks for clearing up your opinion, Gander.
I just wanted to say that whether a six-year-old, male or female, was murdered ten years ago, a hundred years ago, or yesterday...it touches a nerve with me. I DO take that very seriously.
The Ramsey family has been put through horrible accusations.

Gay people don't operate from the same places as pedophiles.
I don't understand a lot about "gay" people, but that's not for me to judge.
Pedophiles...they are the worst forms of wasted oxygen. The damage they cause to others is beyond my ability to find a word suitable to express my disdain.

As far as "What was he doing in Thailand?"...I don't know ...but I'm sure it will come out at trial.
The Boulder prosecutor was very cagey today. She has the case of her life in front of her, and she didn't want to say anything to jeopordize it.
I have every confidence that the truth will be brought forth. We just have to allow the justice system to prove it.
Even if Karr is found innocent, he'll never live a "normal life" again.

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Old 08-18-2006, 03:13 PM
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You guys are taking my tongue in cheek humor too seriously. You really should lighten up. First and foremost I feel terrible for what this poor family has been and is still going through. Secondily I have nothing against gay people. I have a couple of friends who like to play pattycake with the same sex, dont bother me at all. Third, I was seriously appalled by the guy's photo. He looks like a psycopath and I hope the truth comes out. What the hell is he doing living in Thailand anyways and writing letters to the family? Surely a guy his age can find better things to do with his time.

"Lighten up Francis"
"Lighten up Francis"... Now that made me chuckle.. "Touch me..and I'll kill ya".

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