Tues. 08/05 ATR what a depressing show

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Is Curlin running in the Japan Cup Dirt an exciting development? No. .

I would consider that a pretty big deal. exciting? it would be to me.
has a Breeders Cup Classic, Dubai World Cup, Japan Cup sweep ever happened before, or even been attempted.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

usurp my largess

Seriously???

After a few beers it sounds like "u slurp my large ass".

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

After a few beers it sounds like "u slurp my large ass".

sounds like a Shaq quote!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I would consider that a pretty big deal. exciting? it would be to me.
has a Breeders Cup Classic, Dubai World Cup, Japan Cup sweep ever happened before, or even been attempted.

Japan Cup DIRT, not the Japan Cup. It is the secondary race

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Japan Cup DIRT, not the Japan Cup. It is the secondary race

yeah so? i assumed you were referring to the dirt race. i still don't get your point. Japan Cup exciting, Japan dirt cup not exciting? or nothing about Curlin racing in Japan would be exciting?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

yeah so? i assumed you were referring to the dirt race. i still don't get your point. Japan Cup exciting, Japan dirt cup not exciting? or nothing about Curlin racing in Japan would be exciting?

Japan Cup Dirt is like the 3rd place game in the NIT. Shipping to another country is nice but skipping the Breeders Cup to run in a race that no one really cares about outside of Japan (quick name 1 winner?) is kind of redundant to me. Not to mention he very well lose because the track there is like a plowed field. I would much rather see him on poly in the Classic which would do a whole lot more for racing and his legacy than going to Japan to run in the middle of the night against a bunch of horses that no one even knows exists. At least the Japan Cup attracts top foreign competition.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

Sorry about spelling of Surburban, I know i sound negative, but this Simon on every show he is on is bad news from him. Go back and listen to archives.

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[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by ALostTexan

I think the show is a waste of time, too.



Well, I do "waste" alot of my time with the podcasts, but it is a fun waste of time, and I waste alot of time in Arizona now because of the show...

byk has a stalker......

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What does brashgodocious mean?

it means you're from surburbia.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I think it's funny when people pick out one word or sentence from this guy's posts to question, as if the rest of the post makes sense.

still working on translating the rest, give us all time. it's not like we've found a rosetta stone yet!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

One of the biggest problems that this sport faces is that the "racing media" has often consisted of flowery prose about lovely horses and press releases announcing "news" like a post race concert series. Adding to this is the inhouse "racing experts" who often know little to nothing about handicapping, training, riding or the historical aspects of the sport. One of the great things about this meet is the siros seminars which feature guys who actually get the sport, understand the wagering and handicapping aspect and realize the historical signifigance or lack thereof of certain performances and events. Steve's show which is unique in it is a daily show that needs to fill 3 hours a day is in many ways the equilivent of the Siros show on the air. He is passionate about the sport and attempts to educate the general listening public about the "other side of the fence" which is often the truth. In my case I am not afraid to tell the truth and speak in plain terms unlike some of the diplomatic trainers that you mentioned. Maybe you want to believe that Jess jackson is some wonderful guy and curlin is a racing god and Dutrow is colorful. Maybe you want to believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus too? This is 2008 and people want information and they want educated opinions. Steve and I give you both. If you choose not to like what we say, your call. But I will continue to swoon when people need to look at the beyer figure before determining whether a race was good or not and when a horse who has done nothing really special gets his "legacy" talked about. Am I excited over the prospect of Curlin in the Woodward? Not particularly. Would it be an interesting story if he ran against BB? Sure. If it is Curlin against the 7 dwarfs that ran in the Whitney or Steven Foster, how exciting is that? Is Curlin running in the Japan Cup Dirt an exciting development? No. Do I think that his 4 year old campaign has been "great for racing" like the other sheep? Not really. maybe because i have seen great horses up close and personal. maybe because I grew up in Saratoga and saw truly great races and still remember when horses needed to run in races to have a "legacy".

If you want fluff and bs, listen to Dave Johnsons show.

so....you're not a fluffer then?????

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DogsUp

I get this post. However, I have a couple of issues with this. I do not believe one can compare Curlin and Big Brown to horses of past years. The game has changed too much. Curlin and Big Brown are the two most important horses that are racing in the U.S today. Talking about one's legacy is pointless. I think one should speak the truth regardless if it is rosey or black. One has to recognize what Big Brown and Curlin has done based on their racing career. They cannot help the quality of their foes. No matter what your opinion, you have to give respect to these two horses simply based on their wins:not beyers, times, foes, or mythical matchups.

why?

we're supposed to ignore what we've seen, what we know, and just grin like village idiots while the pretty horsies run? i don't think so.

I think the show has improved quite a bit.
This racing year provided many opportunities to voice some real
concerns at the same time the show was "coming of age".

Enough confidence to be critical came at a very good time...
My view anyway.

[sdjcom]

Well Cannon Shell i guess you put me in my place and set me straight.

[sdjcom]

Ok I Stand Corrected Now Lets Have A Vote How Many Of You Want Me To Quit Posting So You Don't Have To Try And Read My Typing And Spelling? Cast Your Vote Yeah Or Nay I'll Stand By The Vote

[AeWingnut]

I don't understand your posts

is there a reason you capitalize every word?

no capital letters is prefereable to what you do.

[hi_im_god]

just because you lay on a cross, don't expect me to do the nailing.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

Ok I Stand Corrected Now Lets Have A Vote How Many Of You Want Me To Quit Posting So You Don't Have To Try And Read My Typing And Spelling? Cast Your Vote Yeah Or Nay I'll Stand By The Vote

Dude, your capitalization of every single word is the single most retarded thing on this board.

I'd rather listen to three hours of pg1985 explain all his exotic wagers than read a post of yours.

[zippyneedsawin]

Why didn't you capitalize every word in the thread title?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Japan Cup Dirt is like the 3rd place game in the NIT. Shipping to another country is nice but skipping the Breeders Cup to run in a race that no one really cares about outside of Japan (quick name 1 winner?) is kind of redundant to me. Not to mention he very well lose because the track there is like a plowed field. I would much rather see him on poly in the Classic which would do a whole lot more for racing and his legacy than going to Japan to run in the middle of the night against a bunch of horses that no one even knows exists. At least the Japan Cup attracts top foreign competition.

Fleet Street Dancer...that was easy.