Trying To Make Money On Big Brown Today...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

It does if you factor in the degree of difficulty (post positions) in at least two of those races. Yes correct!

Dr. Fager just rolled over in his grave

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Dr. Fager just rolled over in his grave

It sounds like a clever retort. Jokes on me because I don't know who Dr. Fager is. Will you complete the joke for my purpose?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

It sounds like a clever retort. Jokes on me because I don't know who Dr. Fager is. Will you complete the joke for my purpose?

Do you follow any sports or movies?

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Do you follow any sports or movies?

I guess not close enough to catch this hidden gem. C'mon who is he?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

I guess not close enough to catch this hidden gem. C'mon who is he?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Fager

Not knowing who Dr Fager is is like being a baseball fan who never heard of Willie mays

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Fager

Not knowing who Dr Fager is is like being a baseball fan who never heard of Willie mays

Who is Willie Mays

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Who is Willie Mays

1/2 brother to Dr. Fager

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

It sounds like a clever retort. Jokes on me because I don't know who Dr. Fager is. Will you complete the joke for my purpose?

http://www.pedigreequery.com/dr+fager

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Alfleet Alex is my favorite horse of all time. But who did he really beat in the Preakness and Belmont other than Giacomo (a 50-1 KD winner). And don't say Scrappy T Yet most agree that Alex was a great horse.

I don't think Afleet Alex was anywhere close to great, though the comparison with Big Brown is a good one.

[RollerDoc]

I don't think Afleet Alex was anywhere close to great, though the comparison with Big Brown is a good one.[/quote]

Afleet Alex (1 1/2 lengths from winning Triple Crown) + amazing recovery at Preakness + Top 3 yr old 2005 = Great Horse IMHO

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Afleet Alex (1 1/2 lengths from winning Triple Crown) + amazing recovery at Preakness + Top 3 yr old 2005 = Great Horse IMHO

So again, you don't take level of competition into consideration. I can see we're making progress.

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

So again, you don't take level of competition into consideration. I can see we're making progress.

Yes I do take level of competition into consideration. I am just getting frustrated that so many of you dilute the accomplishments of Big Brown because of the dismay you all have for his connections (which I am disappointed as well). The Jackson's, Michael Matz, and Edgar Prado they sure are not.

Take them out of the equation and I think we have had a really talented 3 year old to be treated to this year in Big Brown. If the BCC were to be held today, you can take to the bank that I will bet the $400.00 plus that I am up on betting Big Brown this year TO WIN and beat old man Curlin. Uh oh....I know I am really going to get slammed for that one. Just kidding about Curlin.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Yes I do take level of competition into consideration. I am just getting frustrated that so many of you dilute the accomplishments of Big Brown because of the dismay you all have for his connections (which I am disappointed as well). The Jackson's, Michael Matz, and Edgar Prado they sure are not.

Take them out of the equation and I think we have had a really talented 3 year old to be treated to this year in Big Brown. If the BCC were to be held today, you can take to the bank that I will bet the $400.00 plus that I am up on betting Big Brown this year TO WIN and beat old man Curlin. Uh oh....I know I am really going to get slammed for that one. Just kidding about Curlin.

Barbaro wasn't great either! It has nothing to do with the connections, it has to do with a complete disconnect from the history of the game.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Yes I do take level of competition into consideration. I am just getting frustrated that so many of you dilute the accomplishments of Big Brown because of the dismay you all have for his connections (which I am disappointed as well). The Jackson's, Michael Matz, and Edgar Prado they sure are not.

Take them out of the equation and I think we have had a really talented 3 year old to be treated to this year in Big Brown. If the BCC were to be held today, you can take to the bank that I will bet the $400.00 plus that I am up on betting Big Brown this year TO WIN and beat old man Curlin. Uh oh....I know I am really going to get slammed for that one. Just kidding about Curlin.

dude, you have no idea what the level of competition is-especially since you concede you've never heard of dr fager, one of the greatest horses of all time. not of the past couple of years, of ALL TIME. big brown isn't even a horse compared to dr fager. he doesn't belong in the same breath, let alone the same BREED!
big brown wouldn't be any faster if mother theresa owned him and the pope rode him. he's an ordinary horse, but he's better than his peers. that doesn't make him great.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Afleet Alex (1 1/2 lengths from winning Triple Crown) + amazing recovery at Preakness + Top 3 yr old 2005 = Great Horse IMHO

So barely cracking the top 100 3yos of the past 50 years is great to you?

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

So barely cracking the top 100 3yos of the past 50 years is great to you?

Top 100 over the past 50 years, possibly top 60 in the past 50 years. So yes Great but not Tony the Tiger Grrrrrrrrrrrrreat!

[Cannon Shell]

One of the things that makes it hard to debate things is that some of the newer fans dont have even a cursory idea about the history of the game and the great horses that have come before. That is why dopes like sdjcom are "depressed" when I talk about BB's race in a far from glowing fashion.

The sport of horseracing does a horrible injustice to itself when we proclaim greatness on horses like BB or even Curlin. The adoration process fuels egos like Jess Jacksons to the point where they actually believe their horse has done something wonderful by winning a few handicap races and beating a bunch of turf horses in Dubai. Big deal. The Arc thing was actually one of the few really unique things that Curlin could have done. The rest of the year figures to be a great big bore yet some in the media will continue to heap praise on Jackson for racing a horse that was virtually impossible to retire because of legal issues. Am i happy that the horse of the year returned? Sure. But that in itself and a couple of wins over overmatched listed type horses is hardly the thing that legends are made of.

[Damascus '67]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

It sounds like a clever retort. Jokes on me because I don't know who Dr. Fager is. Will you complete the joke for my purpose?

Go pick up DRF's "The Lives, Times & Past Performances of America's Greatest Thorougbreds". In it you will see GREAT horses of the past...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

It sounds like a clever retort. Jokes on me because I don't know who Dr. Fager is. Will you complete the joke for my purpose?

this post explains a lot. a ton.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

It sounds like a clever retort. Jokes on me because I don't know who Dr. Fager is. Will you complete the joke for my purpose?

Check out the Thoroughbred Racing Hall of Fame and you might see some other names you should know, as well:

http://www.racingmuseum.org/Hall/index.asp