Trying To Make Money On Big Brown Today...

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

not really.

I invested $80.00 total. Did I lose money?

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

I invested $80.00 total. Did I lose money?

all depends if you had to drive to the OTB or track to bet it.



the dollar tri paid $32
and Big Brown paid $2.40

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

all depends if you had to drive to the OTB or track to bet it.



the dollar tri paid $32
and Big Brown paid $2.40

You might be right. My X5 requires Premium Unleaded. I should factor in about $7.00 for gas. Boy am I stupid How come nobody on this board advised me against my strategy.

Hey at least I had fun watching the race and I don't think I lost anything. Big Brown finished strong and regardless of whether he is Travers, BCC bound or stud, he gave me a few thrills this summer.

For those of you calling him Big Crap, I think that is a little out of line. He still beat 19 horses in the KD from a post that nobody had in nearly a century. And his Preakness and FL Derby was not too shabby either.

Or maybe there is still something left in this horse.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

You might be right. My X5 requires Premium Unleaded. I should factor in about $7.00 for gas. Boy am I stupid How come nobody on this board advised me against my strategy.

Hey at least I had fun watching the race and I don't think I lost anything. Big Brown finished strong and regardless of whether he is Travers, BCC bound or stud, he gave me a few thrills this summer.

For those of you calling him Big Crap, I think that is a little out of line. He still beat 19 horses in the KD from a post that nobody had in nearly a century. And his Preakness and FL Derby was not too shabby either.

Or maybe there is still something left in this horse.

[RollerDoc]

You have to go back to 1999 to find a better winning time in the Haskell. War Emblem (2002) tied Big Brown's time today if what I read is correct. With that said, doesn't Big Brown deserve a little more credit for today's victory?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

You have to go back to 1999 to find a better winning time in the Haskell. War Emblem (2002) tied Big Brown's time today if what I read is correct. With that said, doesn't Big Brown deserve a little more credit for today's victory?

yeah, a real historical undertaking today.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

You might be right. My X5 requires Premium Unleaded. I should factor in about $7.00 for gas. Boy am I stupid How come nobody on this board advised me against my strategy.

Hey at least I had fun watching the race and I don't think I lost anything. Big Brown finished strong and regardless of whether he is Travers, BCC bound or stud, he gave me a few thrills this summer.

For those of you calling him Big Crap, I think that is a little out of line. He still beat 19 horses in the KD from a post that nobody had in nearly a century. And his Preakness and FL Derby was not too shabby either.

Or maybe there is still something left in this horse.

Big Brown finished strong?

You mean Coal Play finsished weak. Big Brown didnt pass Coal Play. Coal Play passed Big Brown as he was collapsing. Anyone who thinks BB was impressive yesterday must have watched a different race. But hey.....congrats on your tri bet....2.70 profit. Muy impressivo.

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Big Brown finished strong?

You mean Coal Play finsished weak. Big Brown didnt pass Coal Play. Coal Play passed Big Brown as he was collapsing. Anyone who thinks BB was impressive yesterday must have watched a different race. But hey.....congrats on your tri bet....2.70 profit. Muy impressivo.

That would be 12.70 profit. Big deal...I know but I am a race fan not a gambler. I have enjoyed the journey with Big Brown this year and made several hundred on him throughout his races (most of it in the KD). It makes watching/rooting for him extra exciting. I will take 12.70 or hundreds in a race as a winner over losing any day.

And YES...Big Brown did finished strong. Strong enough to win. In the end, that's all that matters. I also saw a horse in Big Brown that had plenty left beyond the finish line as well. Big Brown was impressive yesterday after a long layoff and who knows what happened at The Belmont.

[Danzig]

no, he didn't finish strong. a front runner finally ran out of gas before the wire, benefitting big brown tremendously. talk about being in the right place at the right time.
and the gallop out many times is overrated. you do know horses never win a dime for winning the gallop out?

[ArlJim78]

since when is not running in a straight line and drifting out to the 10 path part of the definition of a strong finish?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no, he didn't finish strong. a front runner finally ran out of gas before the wire, benefitting big brown tremendously. talk about being in the right place at the right time.
and the gallop out many times is overrated. you do know horses never win a dime for winning the gallop out?

The internet is a wonderful and funny thing. People read something and immediately jump on the bandwagon.
It is in vogue to call Big Brown's performance bad... A little due diligence provides a different story however.

Haskell 2008

1st call 46.59 (Second fastest in last 10 years)
2nd call 110.85 (5th fastest)
Final 148.31 (3rd fastest)

Come Home 37.46 (2nd fastest Not counting 2 lengths that Big Brown was behind at the half)

Beyer of 106 compares to Big Browns best...

How is this a bad performance ???

Coal Play ran the race of his life in setting the table for Cool Coal man who didn't deliver.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

That would be 12.70 profit. Big deal...I know but I am a race fan not a gambler. I have enjoyed the journey with Big Brown this year and made several hundred on him throughout his races (most of it in the KD). It makes watching/rooting for him extra exciting. I will take 12.70 or hundreds in a race as a winner over losing any day.

And YES...Big Brown did finished strong. Strong enough to win. In the end, that's all that matters. I also saw a horse in Big Brown that had plenty left beyond the finish line as well. Big Brown was impressive yesterday after a long layoff and who knows what happened at The Belmont.

Correct me if I am wrong but didnt you put 30 bucks into the tri? It paid 32.70 right?

How is that 12.70 ?

BB didnt finish strong. Coal Play just stopped at the end. Watch on the turn as Desormeaux was geting into him....BB was goin nowhere....only made up ground as Coal Play finally gave in. BB passed a tired OPT Claimer.

BB has been impressive earlier this year when he destroyed bad fields. Now he is barely beating bad fields. Nice horse, but nothing special. Curlin will crush him if Dutrow is dumb enough to race vs him.

[Gander]

Did you guys watch the Jim Dandy? I dont see those horses as being a lot better than the horses Big Brown beat in the Haskell. I would maybe give them a slight edge, but shouldnt Pyro have won the Jim Dandy if he was half as good as the hyped that has surrounded him all year?
I'm not sold on Harlem Rocker being this super horse but he wont have to be to win this.

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Correct me if I am wrong but didnt you put 30 bucks into the tri? It paid 32.70 right?

How is that 12.70 ?

BB didnt finish strong. Coal Play just stopped at the end. Watch on the turn as Desormeaux was geting into him....BB was goin nowhere....only made up ground as Coal Play finally gave in. BB passed a tired OPT Claimer.

BB has been impressive earlier this year when he destroyed bad fields. Now he is barely beating bad fields. Nice horse, but nothing special. Curlin will crush him if Dutrow is dumb enough to race vs him.

I also bet $50 straight up on Big Brown to Win.

Let's agree to disagree on our assessments of Big Brown.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

I invested $80.00 total. Did I lose money?

13th race - Monmouth Park - August 03, 2008
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
4 Big Brown 2.40 2.10 2.10
6 Coal Play 8.00 4.20
2 Cool Coal Man 2.80


$2 Exacta 4-6 25.20
$1 Superfecta 4-6-2-3 218.80
$1 Trifecta 4-6-2 32.70
$1 Pick 3 1-4-4 (3 correct) 78.80
$1 Pick 4 3-1-4-4 (4 correct) 849.10



you got a whopping 2.70 back on your $30 tri bet. .40 back for every $2 bet for him to win. so, you made less than $9.