Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-03-2008, 05:37 PM
RollerDoc RollerDoc is offline
Lincoln Fields
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 431
Default

So I ended up putting $50 on Big Brown to win and invested on a $30 trifecta on all horses as BB winning. Did I win anything?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-03-2008, 05:38 PM
AeWingnut's Avatar
AeWingnut AeWingnut is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Suddenly
Posts: 4,828
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RollerDoc
So I ended up putting $50 on Big Brown to win and invested on a $30 trifecta on all horses as BB winning. Did I win anything?
not really.
__________________
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-03-2008, 05:40 PM
RollerDoc RollerDoc is offline
Lincoln Fields
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 431
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AeWingnut
not really.
I invested $80.00 total. Did I lose money?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-03-2008, 05:44 PM
AeWingnut's Avatar
AeWingnut AeWingnut is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Suddenly
Posts: 4,828
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RollerDoc
I invested $80.00 total. Did I lose money?

all depends if you had to drive to the OTB or track to bet it.



the dollar tri paid $32
and Big Brown paid $2.40
__________________
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-03-2008, 05:50 PM
RollerDoc RollerDoc is offline
Lincoln Fields
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 431
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AeWingnut
all depends if you had to drive to the OTB or track to bet it.



the dollar tri paid $32
and Big Brown paid $2.40
You might be right. My X5 requires Premium Unleaded. I should factor in about $7.00 for gas. Boy am I stupid How come nobody on this board advised me against my strategy.

Hey at least I had fun watching the race and I don't think I lost anything. Big Brown finished strong and regardless of whether he is Travers, BCC bound or stud, he gave me a few thrills this summer.

For those of you calling him Big Crap, I think that is a little out of line. He still beat 19 horses in the KD from a post that nobody had in nearly a century. And his Preakness and FL Derby was not too shabby either.

Or maybe there is still something left in this horse.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-03-2008, 05:51 PM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,942
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RollerDoc
You might be right. My X5 requires Premium Unleaded. I should factor in about $7.00 for gas. Boy am I stupid How come nobody on this board advised me against my strategy.

Hey at least I had fun watching the race and I don't think I lost anything. Big Brown finished strong and regardless of whether he is Travers, BCC bound or stud, he gave me a few thrills this summer.

For those of you calling him Big Crap, I think that is a little out of line. He still beat 19 horses in the KD from a post that nobody had in nearly a century. And his Preakness and FL Derby was not too shabby either.

Or maybe there is still something left in this horse.

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-03-2008, 06:03 PM
RollerDoc RollerDoc is offline
Lincoln Fields
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 431
Default

You have to go back to 1999 to find a better winning time in the Haskell. War Emblem (2002) tied Big Brown's time today if what I read is correct. With that said, doesn't Big Brown deserve a little more credit for today's victory?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-04-2008, 10:50 AM
stonegossard stonegossard is offline
Sheepshead Bay
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,115
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RollerDoc
You might be right. My X5 requires Premium Unleaded. I should factor in about $7.00 for gas. Boy am I stupid How come nobody on this board advised me against my strategy.

Hey at least I had fun watching the race and I don't think I lost anything. Big Brown finished strong and regardless of whether he is Travers, BCC bound or stud, he gave me a few thrills this summer.

For those of you calling him Big Crap, I think that is a little out of line. He still beat 19 horses in the KD from a post that nobody had in nearly a century. And his Preakness and FL Derby was not too shabby either.

Or maybe there is still something left in this horse.
Big Brown finished strong?

You mean Coal Play finsished weak. Big Brown didnt pass Coal Play. Coal Play passed Big Brown as he was collapsing. Anyone who thinks BB was impressive yesterday must have watched a different race. But hey.....congrats on your tri bet....2.70 profit. Muy impressivo.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-04-2008, 11:42 PM
RollerDoc RollerDoc is offline
Lincoln Fields
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 431
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stonegossard
Big Brown finished strong?

You mean Coal Play finsished weak. Big Brown didnt pass Coal Play. Coal Play passed Big Brown as he was collapsing. Anyone who thinks BB was impressive yesterday must have watched a different race. But hey.....congrats on your tri bet....2.70 profit. Muy impressivo.
That would be 12.70 profit. Big deal...I know but I am a race fan not a gambler. I have enjoyed the journey with Big Brown this year and made several hundred on him throughout his races (most of it in the KD). It makes watching/rooting for him extra exciting. I will take 12.70 or hundreds in a race as a winner over losing any day.

And YES...Big Brown did finished strong. Strong enough to win. In the end, that's all that matters. I also saw a horse in Big Brown that had plenty left beyond the finish line as well. Big Brown was impressive yesterday after a long layoff and who knows what happened at The Belmont.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-03-2008, 05:45 PM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,942
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RollerDoc
I invested $80.00 total. Did I lose money?


13th race - Monmouth Park - August 03, 2008
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
4 Big Brown 2.40 2.10 2.10
6 Coal Play 8.00 4.20
2 Cool Coal Man 2.80


$2 Exacta 4-6 25.20
$1 Superfecta 4-6-2-3 218.80
$1 Trifecta 4-6-2 32.70
$1 Pick 3 1-4-4 (3 correct) 78.80
$1 Pick 4 3-1-4-4 (4 correct) 849.10



you got a whopping 2.70 back on your $30 tri bet. .40 back for every $2 bet for him to win. so, you made less than $9.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-03-2008, 05:47 PM
TheSpyder's Avatar
TheSpyder TheSpyder is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Nothing could be finer
Posts: 5,140
Default

I rekon you made $12.70 on an $80 bet. You won. But I think the point everyone was tryiing to make is chasing such a low return with $80 over the long run is a losing proposition.

If you're happy so be it but it's not a way to play the ponies in general.

I can't really complain since you did better than be today....but tomorrow that's a different story.

Spyder
Quote:
Originally Posted by RollerDoc
So I ended up putting $50 on Big Brown to win and invested on a $30 trifecta on all horses as BB winning. Did I win anything?
__________________
Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-03-2008, 05:51 PM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,942
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSpyder
I rekon you made $12.70 on an $80 bet. You won. But I think the point everyone was tryiing to make is chasing such a low return with $80 over the long run is a losing proposition.

If you're happy so be it but it's not a way to play the ponies in general.

I can't really complain since you did better than be today....but tomorrow that's a different story.

Spyder
ooops--i forgot it was $50 to win, i based his payoff on a $30 win bet....
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-04-2008, 10:11 AM
GPK GPK is offline
5'8".. but all man!
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 3 miles from Chateuax de la Blaha
Posts: 21,706
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Can someone explain to me how if there is this kind of money in the pools, how I continue to get crushed at the windows this summer?

I ask myself the same question Hossy.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-04-2008, 10:13 AM
jms62's Avatar
jms62 jms62 is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 19,818
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Can someone explain to me how if there is this kind of money in the pools, how I continue to get crushed at the windows this summer?
You realize that you left yourself WIDE open with that statement...
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-04-2008, 10:38 AM
jms62's Avatar
jms62 jms62 is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 19,818
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm being honest. It's been a massacre so far.
Hang in there. It can change with one swing of the bat. Just don't chase by upping your bets.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 08-04-2008, 10:39 AM
Coach Pants
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm being honest. It's been a massacre so far.
Hey there are two turf sprints in the late pick 4 sequence today.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-04-2008, 10:45 AM
Scav Scav is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northwest of The Chi
Posts: 16,012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Hey there are two turf sprints in the late pick 4 sequence today.
Not only two turf sprints, but the great Mike Dini making an appearance at the Spa......
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-05-2008, 02:04 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav
Not only two turf sprints, but the great Mike Dini making an appearance at the Spa......
No jacket and too cheap to hire a groom
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-05-2008, 02:09 PM
Scav Scav is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northwest of The Chi
Posts: 16,012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
No jacket and too cheap to hire a groom
He drove the horse there also


I am surprised he didn't wear the Dini Racing Jacket from 1999
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-04-2008, 10:13 AM
Scav Scav is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northwest of The Chi
Posts: 16,012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Can someone explain to me how if there is this kind of money in the pools, how I continue to get crushed at the windows this summer?
While I agree with you, look at the P4 yesterday at Monmouth and tell me that wasn't a missed opportunity, $900 per $1 with a 1/5, and two other horses that were until $12 (I think)
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.