P Val in Trouble Again

Throw him out of racing. It is simple. Racing needs to make a statement here. Throw him out and increase the weight limits. SIMPLE.

[Danzig]

chapter 27 of pvals bio...reads much like the first 26, on the wagon, off the wagon, trouble, chrb, treatment, back to riding...
that door that he keeps getting tossed out of--it's a revolving door, he'll be back for yet another go round.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

chapter 27 of pvals bio...reads much like the first 26, on the wagon, off the wagon, trouble, chrb, treatment, back to riding...
that door that he keeps getting tossed out of--it's a revolving door, he'll be back for yet another go round.

Time is catching up to Pat. He's only got a few more years anyway. The real problem for him is what does he do when it is really over? Write a book!

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Throw him out of racing. It is simple. Racing needs to make a statement here. Throw him out and increase the weight limits. SIMPLE.

Racing needs to make a lot of statements, and I don't put harshly punishing PVal at the top of the list. How about something more than a meaningless short suspension for trainers who cheat, for example?

PVal is certifiably sick. That doesn't excuse his behavior, but it does make me somewhat sympathetic. The trainers that are cheating have no excuse except greed.

I do agree with increasing the weight limits for jockeys.

--Dunbar

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Racing needs to make a lot of statements, and I don't put harshly punishing PVal at the top of the list. How about something more than a meaningless short suspension for trainers who cheat, for example?

PVal is certifiably sick. That doesn't excuse his behavior, but it does make me somewhat sympathetic. The trainers that are cheating have no excuse except greed.

I do agree with increasing the weight limits for jockeys.

--Dunbar

I agree with you about P Val. I would forgive him before I would forgive cheating trainers. He's only hurting himself. In addition, as long as he's tested every day and he's clean while he's riding, that is the main thing as far as I'm concerned. If he takes off for a few weeks, I'm not sure that it is necessarily anyone's business what he's doing while he's not riding.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I agree with you about P Val. I would forgive him before I would forgive cheating trainers. He's only hurting himself. In addition, as long as he's tested every day and he's clean while he's riding, that is the main thing as far as I'm concerned. If he takes off for a few weeks, I'm not sure that it is necessarily anyone's business what he's doing while he's not riding.

Now that they are going to legalize personal use drugs in Mexico Pat can vacation for a month are blame it on Cabo San Lukas.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Now that they are going to legalize personal use drugs in Mexico Pat can vacation for a month are blame it on Cabo San Lukas.

I have actually wondered what would happen if he wanted to take a 3 week vacation somewhere. Would the CHRB insist on him being tested even in another city?

[goingtothewhip]

PVal's drug of choice was coke which will come up negative on a urine test 1-3 days after ingestion. Given how fast a jockey's metabolism is by nature, it would be towards shorter duration.

from what i read after Pval failed to show for the Del Mar meet claiming a back injury....the CHRB came to his house and took 2 urine tests which would be 3-4 days after the Hollywood meet concluded. They then tried to return a third time for a hair folicle test which would show signs of use for a month plus. He was then unavailable and apparently in a hospital for undisclosed reasons. For the CHRB to come for the hair folicle test after the negetive urine tests they obviously had some angle they were working to warrant more testing.
Said hospital is now known to be a mental health and substance abuse facility in Pasadena.

Regardless I hope he gets well. I still hope to see him and Nakatani throw blows in front of the winner circle at Santa Anita one day..... dare to dream.

[2MinsToPost]

Yes you are correct in that cocaine is water soluble and goes thru the system fast but not in 24 hours, at the minimum if a person does a "line" no matter what their size or metabolism it takes a min of 72 hours to flush thru the system where a urine test will not pick up any amount. Their are different urine tests, don't know which one they use.

This whole thing about P Val is atypical of a sick person who is an addict and cares less about himself then others around him. Sad, but life goes on. He will be faced with a choice

Do you want to end up in jail or prison? Dead? Homeless? All of the above?

If you come clean and stay that way you will have a chance at life, otherwise one of the above will be a reality. Or more.

Originally Posted by goingtothewhip

PVal's drug of choice was coke which will come up negative on a urine test 1-3 days after ingestion. Given how fast a jockey's metabolism is by nature, it would be towards shorter duration.

from what i read after Pval failed to show for the Del Mar meet claiming a back injury....the CHRB came to his house and took 2 urine tests which would be 3-4 days after the Hollywood meet concluded. They then tried to return a third time for a hair folicle test which would show signs of use for a month plus. He was then unavailable and apparently in a hospital for undisclosed reasons. For the CHRB to come for the hair folicle test after the negetive urine tests they obviously had some angle they were working to warrant more testing.
Said hospital is now known to be a mental health and substance abuse facility in Pasadena.

Regardless I hope he gets well. I still hope to see him and Nakatani throw blows in front of the winner circle at Santa Anita one day..... dare to dream.