FINALLY: a good match up-- the Virginia Derby

[Buffymommy]

Think I am sticking with Bucky!!

[Bobby Fischer]

worth reading anything into Gio Ponti switching to the left lead late in the hillprince mile?

[eajinabi]

The CNL Turf Cup was an oddly run race in my opinion.

It was a soft turf course and the front runner who was 7 lengths ahead of the field was leading in times of :51, 1:18, 1:45 so yet he folds real bad and closers cruise on by. Is this common at CNL?

There is not much speed today and looks to be a firm ground. I am looking for Court Vision to change tactics today and take the lead and TRY to hang on.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

The CNL Turf Cup was an oddly run race in my opinion.

It was a soft turf course and the front runner who was 7 lengths ahead of the field was leading in times of :51, 1:18, 1:45 so yet he folds real bad and closers cruise on by. Is this common at CNL?

There is not much speed today and looks to be a firm ground. I am looking for Court Vision to change tactics today and take the lead and TRY to hang on.

Do you remember the '06 Colonial Turf Cup with a headstrong horse by the name of Kip Deville?

That's beside the point though. Who knows how quick those fractions really were considering the ground? And that race was all about who could handle the marsh.. Tactics meant very little, IMO.

On another note, I continue to be surprised that Court Vision backers still exist.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Do you remember the '06 Colonial Turf Cup with a headstrong horse by the name of Kip Deville?

That's beside the point though. Who knows how quick those fractions really were considering the ground? And that race was all about who could handle the marsh.. Tactics meant very little, IMO.

On another note, I continue to be surprised that Court Vision backers still exist.

Not really a backer of his but with MOTT/Desourmeaux and IEAH as his conncections. 10-1 is not a bad shot to play him. His first shot at turf was on soft and now he has firm. why not?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Not really a backer of his but with MOTT/Desourmeaux and IEAH as his conncections. 10-1 is not a bad shot to play him. His first shot at turf was on soft and now he has firm. why not?

He's proven to be slow. What difference does it make who owns/trains/rides a proven slow horse? Are they suddenly going to make him fast after all of this time?

Generally if the best case you can make for a horse is that they're owned, trained or ridden by someone successful, (unless they're a first-time starter) that's probably a good indication that the horse sucks.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He's proven to be slow. What difference does it make who owns/trains/rides a proven slow horse? Are they suddenly going to make him fast after all of this time?

Generally if the best case you can make for a horse is that they're owned, trained or ridden by someone successful, (unless they're a first-time starter) that's probably a good indication that the horse sucks.

Connections matter a lot when it comes to big money races. There are reasons why the same people win the big races.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He's proven to be slow. What difference does it make who owns/trains/rides a proven slow horse? Are they suddenly going to make him fast after all of this time?

Generally if the best case you can make for a horse is that they're owned, trained or ridden by someone successful, (unless they're a first-time starter) that's probably a good indication that the horse sucks.

Court Vision is a chump isnt he??

[cowgirlintexas]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Do you remember the '06 Colonial Turf Cup with a headstrong horse by the name of Kip Deville?

That's beside the point though. Who knows how quick those fractions really were considering the ground? And that race was all about who could handle the marsh.. Tactics meant very little, IMO.

On another note, I continue to be surprised that Court Vision backers still exist.

:

After today we know why

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

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After today we know why

Now I really want Court Vision to win next out. To spite all of you. J/K

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Now I really want Court Vision to win next out. To spite all of you. J/K

Score:
Court Vision - 2 Court Vision doubters - 0

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

[/b] :

After today we know why

There goes your prize.

What a great thread this has turned into. I love it when we have a drunk poster who's not me.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

I am looking for Court Vision to change tactics today and take the lead and TRY to hang on.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

worth reading anything into Gio Ponti switching to the left lead late in the hillprince mile?

I guess not.

When the horse is the superior horse, switching late in the previous race may not be a big deal?
Haven't seen the replay to see if Ponti did it again, but the Hill Prince was the only time he had done it previously.
I guess as I notice it more, I will form more of an opinion for this type of thing.