Fasig-Tipton July sale

[ELA]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Yeah, bids were made on all of the horses. But who were placing the bids.???

The million dollar question! Or in this case the $10,000 question? LOL.

Whenever I try and buy a horse that went RNA -- the mystery is always "where was the last live bid"

I had one in the Keeneland sale and I am telling you, there was one live bid other than my own from $45k all the way to $65k. I was very thankful there was at least one buyer there. Of course it can be a totally different story when there is no live bid. A seller, consignor, anyone can bid it up themselves to create the after-sale market.

Bottom line -- I think below $100k, this market will take a major hit.

Eric

[sumitas]

How many of the horses sold at this sale will actually race for the current new owner ? I have no idea but I get the feeling only a few will.

Anywho, on to the Spa for the next round of yearling sales.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by sumitas

How many of the horses sold at this sale will actually race for the current new owner ? I have no idea but I get the feeling only a few will.

Anywho, on to the Spa for the next round of yearling sales.

Great question. I think the one area of the marketplace, as it relates to "buyers", that won't get as hurt will be the pinhookers. They are somewhat in a position of they "have to buy" -- at least something -- it just becomes a question of what, where, how much, etc. If the pinhookers back off, they are pretty much putting themselves in a position of not being able to do business. Their wallets might be affected, they might not spend as much or buy as many, but they will still buy or else they can't conduct business.

Like you said, on to the Spa, and then Keeneland for about a zillion horses being sold.

Eric

[Linny]

A quick logistical question re: seeling at F-T July.
When does the seller have to commit to a "reserve" price? Is it at nomination or far later in the process?

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Linny

A quick logistical question re: seeling at F-T July.
When does the seller have to commit to a "reserve" price? Is it at nomination or far later in the process?

Far later. The seller can set an RNA up to very late (as long as the RNA price gets to the auction stand). However, it doesn't matter -- the seller can bid or "protect" the horse to any price he/she wants.

Eric

[Linny]

Thanks Eric. I was wondering if a baby nominated early in the year might have had a reserve set at that time and as the economy has gotten worse, the reserve might seem high, but that appears not to be the case.

As I often see in the hunter/jumper world, it looks like many sellers are basing reserves on "what they have into the horse" than a reasonable reflection of the market as it stands TODAY.

[sumitas]

Maybe it was my imagination but I did think the internet pic of the high priced Unforgettable Max colt actually looked like a yearling as opposed to a 4 year old that we are used to seeing. It was refreshing to see a yearling actually look like the young kids they are. But again, it could be my perception was off.

But 22 buyers did request the post sale steroid tests so there could be some returns. And they should be made public if there is a positive, it seems.
http://news.bloodhorse.com/article/46167.htm