Favre...gimme a break

No this is what happens when you have a hall of fame quarterback retire and you're left with a guy that works in the off-season as a china doll in a thrift store.

[GPK]

More importantly....when is Avery Smartman coming out of retirement?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by GPK

More importantly....when is Avery Smartman coming out of retirement?

OOOOOOOOOOOO!!

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Scav

OOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Though considering he really wasn't Hall of Fame material...probably best if he stays retired. He's done enough.

[Mortimer]

Don't think I don't see what you creatures are doing over here.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Don't think I don't see what you creatures are doing over here.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

No this is what happens when you have a hall of fame quarterback retire and you're left with a guy that works in the off-season as a china doll in a thrift store.

Well..actually he has spent the last 3 off seasons in GB learning the system and working out. This is HIS team now, not Favres's.

IF...and that's a huge IF considering who he is replacing, Rodgers stays healthy (and Favre doesn't come back):

1) GB will make the playoffs
2) He will throw at least 25 TDs
3) His passer rating will be 90 or better
4) And he will throw picks...probably 15 or so
5) BUT..He will rush for enough yards to be in the Top 5-7 QBs running the ball

You're probably ROFLMFAO now, but I'll find this in December either way.

and Scavs...if you want to double down on the Contreras Chicken wing bet you are about to lose, be my Guest

[dalakhani]

If you guys are under the impression that this wasnt a pre-meditated attempt by favre and his agent to get out of GB, you are extremely naive.

The lastest rumor, per the nfl radio channel, is that Favre's agent was actually calling teams immediately after the "retirement" to guage interest in Favre.

Favre wanted out. The team is not at fault and this could easily be a situation of happily ever after. Kind of like when Montana went to KC after all of the initial garbage. KC got to an AFC title game and the niners ended up winning another title.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

If you guys are under the impression that this wasnt a pre-meditated attempt by favre and his agent to get out of GB, you are extremely naive.

The lastest rumor, per the nfl radio channel, is that Favre's agent was actually calling teams immediately after the "retirement" to guage interest in Favre.

Favre wanted out. The team is not at fault and this could easily be a situation of happily ever after. Kind of like when Montana went to KC after all of the initial garbage. KC got to an AFC title game and the niners ended up winning another title.

I'll take the leap and buy your "rumors", which I don't believe. But why exactly did he want out of GB if not to retire? It's not money, it's not his relationship with McCarthey, it's not the talent surrounding him, it's not that he wants to play in a "big city"...so, what is it then? I mean...I lived in GB for four years and moved to Chicago as fast as I could so I'm not some naive Green Bay guy, but he genuinely liked living up there.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'll take the leap and buy your "rumors", which I don't believe. But why exactly did he want out of GB if not to retire? It's not money, it's not his relationship with McCarthey, it's not the talent surrounding him, it's not that he wants to play in a "big city"...so, what is it then? I mean...I lived in GB for four years and moved to Chicago as fast as I could so I'm not some naive Green Bay guy, but he genuinely liked living up there.

As far as the rumors go, ask solomon wilcotts because he is the one that threw it out there this morning and i believe it. Those guys dont just just throw bullshit out there...usually.

As to why, I can only speculate. One of the reasons is perhaps because this is a young team with a fairly new coaching staff that he didnt "grow up" with. How many of these guys does he have anything in common with? How many are from his "era"? How many can he go get a bite to eat with or a drink with after practice? He is close to 40. That has to factor in a little bit...although i wouldnt know how much.

How much is it just curiousity? Whats it like playing somewhere else?

How much does it have to do with how friggin cold it gets in GB during the winter?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

As far as the rumors go, ask solomon wilcotts because he is the one that threw it out there this morning and i believe it. Those guys dont just just throw bullshit out there...usually.

As to why, I can only speculate. One of the reasons is perhaps because this is a young team with a fairly new coaching staff that he didnt "grow up" with. How many of these guys does he have anything in common with? How many are from his "era"? How many can he go get a bite to eat with or a drink with after practice? He is close to 40. That has to factor in a little bit...although i wouldnt know how much.

How much is it just curiousity? Whats it like playing somewhere else?

How much does it have to do with how friggin cold it gets in GB during the winter?

The guys in common thing has been brought up, but it sure seems like a whole lot of plotting and scheming just to find an older guy to have a beer with. He's tight with the coaching staff...McCarthey was with him in the late 90s., Edgar Bennet is the RB coach, etc
I do get what your saying, but sometimes think that "people" are trying too hard to figure out what happened. I think he really thought he was ready to retire in January and changed his mind somewhere along the way. And then created a real mess for everyone involved

[dalakhani]

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr...orts/sp-favre4

i did a google and found a link to an LA times article and it appears it is a legit rumor although the truth of the rumor can be questioned.

Let me ask you this...if Brett Favre wanted out of GB, how else could he do it without crushing his image?

[KY_Sasquash]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'll take the leap and buy your "rumors", which I don't believe. But why exactly did he want out of GB if not to retire? It's not money, it's not his relationship with McCarthey, it's not the talent surrounding him, it's not that he wants to play in a "big city"...so, what is it then? I mean...I lived in GB for four years and moved to Chicago as fast as I could so I'm not some naive Green Bay guy, but he genuinely liked living up there.

Ted Thompson.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by KY_Sasquash

Ted Thompson.

He likes him a whole lot more than Mike Sherman. And he brought him players who can win.

I know you're saying on a personality level though..
who knows

[GBBob]

[quote=GBBob]Well..actually he has spent the last 3 off seasons in GB learning the system and working out. This is HIS team now, not Favres's.

IF...and that's a huge IF considering who he is replacing, Rodgers stays healthy (and Favre doesn't come back):

1) GB will make the playoffs oops
2) He will throw at least 25 TDs
3) His passer rating will be 90 or better
4) And he will throw picks...probably 15 or so 13
5) BUT..He will rush for enough yards to be in the Top 5-7 QBs running the ball Yes

touchdown passes (28), passing yards (4,038) and passer rating (93.8).

[philcski]

[quote=GBBob]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Well..actually he has spent the last 3 off seasons in GB learning the system and working out. This is HIS team now, not Favres's.

IF...and that's a huge IF considering who he is replacing, Rodgers stays healthy (and Favre doesn't come back):

1) GB will make the playoffs oops
2) He will throw at least 25 TDs
3) His passer rating will be 90 or better
4) And he will throw picks...probably 15 or so 13
5) BUT..He will rush for enough yards to be in the Top 5-7 QBs running the ball Yes

touchdown passes (28), passing yards (4,038) and passer rating (93.8).

Rodgers played well. The rest of the team didn't. Grant was pretty much a no-show all season.

GB bounces back next year if Grant gets back on track and the defense stays healthy.

I know this stat is out there and this is a good one that actually matters...

how many times did he have the ball with a chance to win the game?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I know this stat is out there and this is a good one that actually matters...

how many times did he have the ball with a chance to win the game?

Agreed...I think 2 or 3 times, but he also put them in position to win games late, but 1) Crosby missed GW winner in Minny 2) Houston went 97 yards in one minute plus to kick GW, 3) Bears drove the field to force OT and hit GW after Crosby missed GW at end of reg, 4) Tenn OT game loss and there are more defensive implosions, but this is top of head. This stat below sums up GB season. I think Rodgers will convert a few of what you talk about next year, but they have to get better defensively.

In counting 419 points, Green Bay was not far from the 435 points it got last year. McCarthy’s team scored 48 touchdowns in both instances.

The difference lies in the number of points given up. Last year, the Packers allowed 291. This year, the total ballooned to 380, tied for fifth most in team history.

[ateamstupid]

LOL, where's wiphan? Before the season, dude was saying that the Packers had better running backs than the Jets.

[dalakhani]

[quote=philcski]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Rodgers played well. The rest of the team didn't. Grant was pretty much a no-show all season.

GB bounces back next year if Grant gets back on track and the defense stays healthy.

Agree with all of this. I loved watching Rodgers this year. He makes throws that not a lot of QB's can make and he is mobile. This was only his first full year of starting and he basically got no support from the ground game.

they lost a lot of close games. I think they could easily be a playoff team next year.