Grasshopper ? ? ?

[Bobby Fischer]

Street Sense was simply not that dominant of a horse that he would crush a decent allowance horse without momentum or a stamina edge. In the Travers he had neither and had to win by a slim talent edge. In the derby SS had a perfect ride and perfect pace and was facing mostly 8.5 furlong race horses.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

Street Sense was simply not that dominant of a horse that he would crush a decent allowance horse without momentum or a stamina edge. In the Travers he had neither and had to win by a slim talent edge. In the derby SS had a perfect ride and perfect pace and was facing mostly 8.5 furlong race horses.

So the derby had fewer 10f horses than the travers? I dont think that is what you meant but if you could clairify.

Street Sense could crush a decent allowance field. Dont be mistaken.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

So the derby had fewer 10f horses than the travers? I dont think that is what you meant but if you could clairify.

Street Sense could crush a decent allowance field. Dont be mistaken.

street sense is retired.

And the Travers WAS a decent allowance field.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

street sense is retired.

And the Travers WAS a decent allowance field.

And if it was necessary, Nafzger would have had him ready to crush it.

Was the BC Juvey a decent allowance field because he looked like he crushed that.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

And if it was necessary, Nafzger would have had him ready to crush it.

Was the BC Juvey a decent allowance field because he looked like he crushed that.

Nafzger had him cranked for teh BC Juvey

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

So the derby had fewer 10f horses than the travers? I dont think that is what you meant but if you could clairify.

Street Sense could crush a decent allowance field. Dont be mistaken.

dude you are so wrong about the travers, HE WAS FULLY CRANKED. i dont even get why your still arguing it, it was the main goal after the preakness loss, why do you think they skipped the belmont, and prepped for 500k less in the dandy...

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

dude you are so wrong about the travers, HE WAS FULLY CRANKED. i dont even get why your still arguing it, it was the main goal after the preakness loss, why do you think they skipped the belmont, and prepped for 500k less in the dandy...

Yes, he was fully cranked to face grasshopper sightseeing and cp west. LOL.

Why do i even engage?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Yes, he was fully cranked to face grasshopper sightseeing and cp west. LOL.

Why do i even engage?

you should not engage, anyone saying a horse was not fully cranked for the travers, just does not understand the game

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

you should not engage, anyone saying a horse was not fully cranked for the travers, just does not understand the game

I actually agree with you that he was probably fully cranked for the Travers. . . Nafzger's famous for preparing his horses to fire on big days. . . BUT, I don't think the Street Sense we saw in the summer and fall was the same one we saw in the BC Juvie and the Derby.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I actually agree with you that he was probably fully cranked for the Travers. . . Nafzger's famous for preparing his horses to fire on big days. . . BUT, I don't think the Street Sense we saw in the summer and fall was the same one we saw in the BC Juvie and the Derby.

i agree with that, but for someone to sit here and continue to say a horse was not fully ready for the travers is a joke in my opinion, and makes me wonder what that person really knows about this game

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I actually agree with you that he was probably fully cranked for the Travers. . . Nafzger's famous for preparing his horses to fire on big days. . . BUT, I don't think the Street Sense we saw in the summer and fall was the same one we saw in the BC Juvie and the Derby.

nafzger gets his horses as ready as they need to be. Thats why he is the horseman that he is.

If you think he had him ready to fire his best shot against cp west, sightseeing and grasshopper i have to disagree. But...thats nothing i havent already said.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

you should not engage, anyone saying a horse was not fully cranked for the travers, just does not understand the game

This is indeed a harsh indictment coming from such a knowledgable contributor. Your expertise shines through with every post in any topic.