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Old 06-28-2008, 09:56 PM
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i have never herd of any of these horses.
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Old 06-28-2008, 10:07 PM
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He also trained a total monster 10-15 years ago. A cal bred, I think he was a son of that Cox's Ridge stallion he seemed connected to.

That horse looked like he was going to be any kind, but died suddenly as a 2yo.

I wish I could remember his name.
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Old 06-28-2008, 10:10 PM
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He also trained a total monster 10-15 years ago. A cal bred, I think he was a son of that Cox's Ridge stallion he seemed connected to.

That horse looked like he was going to be any kind, but died suddenly as a 2yo.

I wish I could remember his name.
The Cox's Ridge stallion was Video Ranger (he was a 3yo of 1990). Video Ranger sired Nationalore, multiple graded stakes placed but never a winner, who broke down as an older horse. Not sure if there is another horse you are considering.
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Old 06-28-2008, 11:49 PM
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The Cox's Ridge stallion was Video Ranger (he was a 3yo of 1990). Video Ranger sired Nationalore, multiple graded stakes placed but never a winner, who broke down as an older horse. Not sure if there is another horse you are considering.
Yeah, I remember Video Ranger. I'm pretty sure this horse was a son of his, especially since this trainer seemed to train almost exclusively Video Ranger offspring. He won one of the stakes at Del Mar and then died.
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Old 06-29-2008, 12:15 AM
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Yeah, I remember Video Ranger. I'm pretty sure this horse was a son of his, especially since this trainer seemed to train almost exclusively Video Ranger offspring. He won one of the stakes at Del Mar and then died.
Riva Ranger (2-for-2) broke down and was euthanized on the track after winning the Graduation Stakes at Del Mar.
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Old 06-29-2008, 02:14 AM
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Riva Ranger (2-for-2) broke down and was euthanized on the track after winning the Graduation Stakes at Del Mar.
Thanks, that sounds like the horse. I wish I could get video on that horse, he was extremely nice.

How'd you figure that out? I think I've mentioned this horse to you a bunch of times over the years but never could figure out his name.
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Old 06-28-2008, 10:08 PM
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i have never herd of any of these horses.
Sorry. My bad.

You should have entitled this thread "Any Info I Already Know?"
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Old 06-28-2008, 10:12 PM
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Sorry. My bad.

You should have entitled this thread "Any Info I Already Know?"
lol its ok, i was only 5 in 1990, i did not start following the game till at least 1993
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Old 06-28-2008, 10:19 PM
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lol its ok, i was only 5 in 1990, i did not start following the game till at least 1993
Well, then at least the name "Street Hero" should remind you of the greatest Rokeby horse of all-time (aside from Red Ransom), Sea Hero, who took the '93 Kentucky Derby and Travers.
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Old 06-28-2008, 10:22 PM
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Well, then at least the name "Street Hero" should remind you of the greatest Rokeby horse of all-time (aside from Red Ransom), Sea Hero, who took the '93 Kentucky Derby and Travers.
i remember sea hero, did bailey ride him ?
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Old 06-28-2008, 10:34 PM
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i remember sea hero, did bailey ride him ?
Yep. Sea Hero now stands at stud in Turkey. Bailey acts like a Turkey on TV.
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Yep. Sea Hero now stands at stud in Turkey. Bailey acts like a Turkey on TV.
i love bailey... i have a autographed copy of his book, Against the odds
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Old 06-29-2008, 05:44 AM
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Yep. Sea Hero now stands at stud in Turkey. Bailey acts like a Turkey on TV.
I hated Sea Hero.. likely because of Bailey, but for whatever reason. I've always felt he was the luckiest 'big race' winner ever. And why there is a statue of him in the Saratoga paddock continues to escape my comprehension. Of all the Travers winners in history, Sea Hero gets a monument in the Spa enclosure?
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Well, then at least the name "Street Hero" should remind you of the greatest Rokeby horse of all-time (aside from Red Ransom), Sea Hero, who took the '93 Kentucky Derby and Travers.
What future Grade 1 winner was Sea Hero coupled with in his final career start? (the 1994 Fayette at Keeneland)
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What future Grade 1 winner was Sea Hero coupled with in his final career start? (the 1994 Fayette at Keeneland)
Key Contender. The fact that Sea Hero failed to finish in front of his less fancied stablemate (he won his Grade 1 for someone else after being sold by Rokeby) prompted Mack Miller to retire him immediately.

Personally, though I don't think he would have been some top older horse, I think Sea Hero's 4yo campaign was hindered by all the turf starts, when the year before, Miller had been so patient with allowing him to "round to form" for his biggest engagements as a 3yo in spite of less-than-stellar efforts in prep races like the Palm Beach and Jim Dandy. After getting lit up by Devil His Due in the Brooklyn early as a 4yo, it was as if had no hope of winning on dirt again, unfortunately he couldn't get it done on turf either.
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Key Contender. The fact that Sea Hero failed to finish in front of his less fancied stablemate (he won his Grade 1 for someone else after being sold by Rokeby) prompted Mack Miller to retire him immediately.

Personally, though I don't think he would have been some top older horse, I think Sea Hero's 4yo campaign was hindered by all the turf starts, when the year before, Miller had been so patient with allowing him to "round to form" for his biggest engagements as a 3yo in spite of less-than-stellar efforts in prep races like the Palm Beach and Jim Dandy. After getting lit up by Devil His Due in the Brooklyn early as a 4yo, it was as if had no hope of winning on dirt again, unfortunately he couldn't get it done on turf either.
Yup, very good, it was Key Contender, he won the Suburban in 1995.. for Flying Zee Stable and Jose Martin.

Sea Hero was always a very tough one to figure out... the only race he was good enough to win after the Travers was an off the turf sprint..
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Old 06-29-2008, 05:49 AM
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Sorry. My bad.

You should have entitled this thread "Any Info I Already Know?"
I laughed.
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