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Old 06-24-2008, 07:09 AM
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Doesn't he train for you? So maybe you are a bit biased?
It doesn't matter whether he trains for me or not. I'm just talking about the facts. He has strengths and weaknesses like every trainer. I recognize that win percentage is not everything, but over the last few years he has consistently had one of the highest win percentages on this circuit. When horses move into his barn, they usually improve.

He can't be completely incompetent.
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:32 PM
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I never said he was.
It wasn't you who called him incompetent. It was Indian Charlie.
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:34 PM
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It wasn't you who called him incompetent. It was Indian Charlie.
Actually, I called him incompetent. Not completely incompetent.

I do like about him that he seems to take care of his horses better than alot of other trainers.
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:47 PM
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Actually, I called him incompetent. Not completely incompetent.

I do like about him that he seems to take care of his horses better than alot of other trainers.
you are calling a lot of ppl names latley, i did not realize your the new man around here.
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:54 PM
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you are calling a lot of ppl names latley, i did not realize your the new man around here.

I pretty much call them like I see them, so as far as being the new man around here, well, I went awhile without posting, so not much has changed.

Also, I don't ever remember calling you a twit, so besides Ellis, who have I called names?
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:54 PM
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Actually, I called him incompetent. Not completely incompetent.

I do like about him that he seems to take care of his horses better than alot of other trainers.
Yes, he is very conscientious. He is probably in the top 5% when it comes to that. He is very quick to turn horses out to the farm if they develop a problem.

Some of these guys will just keep running them no matter what. They will run them until the horse is so lame that they have no choice but to turn them out. It's usually too late by then. At that point, permanent damage has been done and the horse will never come back the same.
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Old 06-26-2008, 07:20 PM
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Declan got an uncontested lead through soft fractions for the level and had no response whatsoever,, infact in the final furlong he really shut it down. I dont know the reason why they bring him back, does he not enjoy the time off at the farm. Maybe they can turn him into a lead pony like Kona Gold and Funny Cide. They absolutely love staying on the track and performing their barn duties.
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Old 06-26-2008, 07:22 PM
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Declan got an uncontested lead through soft fractions for the level and had no response whatsoever,, infact in the final furlong he really shut it down. I dont know the reason why they bring him back, does he not enjoy the time off at the farm. Maybe they can turn him into a lead pony like Kona Gold and Funny Cide. They absolutely love staying on the track and performing their barn duties.
he should be retired, that was the point of me starting this thread. why push ? if he was not a gelding he'd be done a long time ago, its unfair to the horse he does not want to run anymore, obviously
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Old 06-26-2008, 07:56 PM
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he should be retired, that was the point of me starting this thread. why push ? if he was not a gelding he'd be done a long time ago, its unfair to the horse he does not want to run anymore, obviously
That will be his last race. They tried everything they could. He got the throat surgery. They gave him 6 months off. He came back and has run poorly 3 times in a row, so they are going to retire him.
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