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Old 06-23-2008, 04:02 PM
freddymo freddymo is offline
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If the horse cost 170k or 700k it doesn't mattter.. You are missing the most important point.. His staff and or trainers would not have put the horse in the race if they thought he was not capable of competing and succeeding without incident.. The guy just lost 700k plus 18 months of training and vet fees use common sense did he need the 50k? He was told the horse was OK and that is the important part.. Remember this horse had how many workouts since the layoff without incident?

The last thing a guy needs is a horse to die on him and the thought that he but the horse in the race to hopefully get 50k is nuts
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:27 PM
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If the horse cost 170k or 700k it doesn't mattter.. You are missing the most important point.. His staff and or trainers would not have put the horse in the race if they thought he was not capable of competing and succeeding without incident.. The guy just lost 700k plus 18 months of training and vet fees use common sense did he need the 50k? He was told the horse was OK and that is the important part.. Remember this horse had how many workouts since the layoff without incident?

The last thing a guy needs is a horse to die on him and the thought that he but the horse in the race to hopefully get 50k is nuts
All of this is just speculation. (Admittedly, I'm assuming a few things as well.) I know that injuries are a part of racing; the soundest horse can take a bad step, and tragedy can occur. Sometimes accidents happen; sometimes, there are accidents waiting to happen, and this seemed like the latter. In this regard, this situation was reminiscent of the incident when Cadillac Cruiser broke down at Aqueduct last February. He was dropping off a good effort at $25,000 to $7,500 and broke down on the clubhouse turn. Under the cirsumstances, tough to call it strictly an accident.

You mentioned his workouts. Doesn't it raise a red flag that he was shipped to Keeneland from Churchill and that his last two workouts were over the Polytrack rather than a conventional dirt surface? And then he's dropped precipitously in price.
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Old 06-23-2008, 05:12 PM
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All of this is just speculation. (Admittedly, I'm assuming a few things as well.) I know that injuries are a part of racing; the soundest horse can take a bad step, and tragedy can occur. Sometimes accidents happen; sometimes, there are accidents waiting to happen, and this seemed like the latter. In this regard, this situation was reminiscent of the incident when Cadillac Cruiser broke down at Aqueduct last February. He was dropping off a good effort at $25,000 to $7,500 and broke down on the clubhouse turn. Under the cirsumstances, tough to call it strictly an accident.

You mentioned his workouts. Doesn't it raise a red flag that he was shipped to Keeneland from Churchill and that his last two workouts were over the Polytrack rather than a conventional dirt surface? And then he's dropped precipitously in price.
The claimer had raced 40 times and they incident is not close to this IMO.

So you want a man who entered the business 20 minutes ago wallet a blazin and someone who knows less about horses then me to be able to figure out and more impotantly be accountable for how and were the horse(700k albatross) is working out? Its the mans hobby he employees what some people think are the most outstanding bloodstock agents(other then DrugS), farm managers, and trainers etc. to run his HOBBY.. Do you want the owner of the Knicks to not let a NBA player play even after a team of doctors and like personnel cleared him to play..

All an owner can do after this occurs is question his employees and suggest they use more common sense protecting his good name and even that is a lot to ask IMO
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Old 06-23-2008, 05:34 PM
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The claimer had raced 40 times and they incident is not close to this IMO.

So you want a man who entered the business 20 minutes ago wallet a blazin and someone who knows less about horses then me to be able to figure out and more impotantly be accountable for how and were the horse(700k albatross) is working out? Its the mans hobby he employees what some people think are the most outstanding bloodstock agents(other then DrugS), farm managers, and trainers etc. to run his HOBBY.. Do you want the owner of the Knicks to not let a NBA player play even after a team of doctors and like personnel cleared him to play..

All an owner can do after this occurs is question his employees and suggest they use more common sense protecting his good name and even that is a lot to ask IMO
So, Jackson's ignorant, and we should give him a pass. If that's you view, fine. But it's certainly not the way Jackson has portrayed himself as he has led his "crusade" to clean up the sport.
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