IEAH still whining, threatening to go to Haskell

[SniperSB23]

I'm thinking the real reason they are going to the Haskell is to leave open the possibility that the Mass Cap will throw a huge bonus at them to run their horse there. That and the horse is clearly terrified of Da Tara.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So, am I the only one excited that Kip Deville is deviating from his ambitious three race scheduling and running in the Poker in a few weeks at Belmont?

you might be

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So, am I the only one excited that Kip Deville is deviating from his ambitious three race scheduling and running in the Poker in a few weeks at Belmont?

Considering Einstein may be the best turf miler and best turf runner at a mile and a half on the east coast while being the second best dirt router we could use any quality horse we can get.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Considering Einstein may be the best turf miler.

That would be Daytona.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

That would be Daytona.

That's why I said east coast.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

That would be Daytona.

You are correct, although he DID say east coast. Can't wait for this years BC Turf Mile, absolutely can't wait. Hopefully, the contenders stay healthy and in form.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Just because you read nothing about it does not mean there was not a problem with it......

Reading is all I got.
You got more? spill it...

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

from bloodhorse:

'Remember, the quarter crack came after a week of little activity, so he went 17 days following the Preakness without working.'

'...missed days and having only one easy breeze in three weeks '

'Dutrow worked Big Brown twice in five weeks after the colt won the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (gr. I): a two-furlong work at Pimlico in :25.40 on the morning of the Preakness (gr. I)—a race, not incidentally, in which his Beyer Speed Figure plunged to 100 after reaching a Kentucky Derby high of 109—and a five-furlong move in a minute flat, breezing, four days before the Belmont.'

he tailed off. dutrow is used to having long breaks between races for his horses, and seemingly panicked-by not wanting to tire his horse, he then took it too easy. i think that's why he pointed the finger so harshly at desormeaux, he wanted to deflect attention away from himself.

He went 14 days without working between the Derby and Preakness. He did work a quarter mile on the morning of the Preakness. Fourteen days as compared to 17 days is not a huge deal.

This talk about the horse tailing off in the Preakness is ridiculous. The speed figure is meaningless when a horse is totally geared down the final 1/16th of a mile. The horse could have won the Preakness by at least an additional 4-5 lengths if he would have been asked. He would have run just as high of a speed figure in the Preakness as the Derby if he would have been asked that final 1/16th of a mile.

The days that BB missed between the Preakness and Belmont could have conceivably cost him a length or two in the Belmont but not the 20+ lengths that he lost by.

[fpsoxfan]

Let them go to the Haskell, I'm tired of the drama. I stayed off the hate IEAH bandwagon because I really like their horse, but now I could care less.
If I'm an owner I'd jump at the chance to run at the Spa.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

He went 14 days without working between the Derby and Preakness. He did work a quarter mile on the morning of the Preakness. Fourteen days as compared to 17 days is not a huge deal.

This talk about the horse tailing off in the Preakness is ridiculous. The speed figure is meaningless when a horse is totally geared down the final 1/16th of a mile. The horse could have won the Preakness by at least an additional 4-5 lengths if he would have been asked. He would have run just as high of a speed figure in the Preakness as the Derby if he would have been asked that final 1/16th of a mile.

The days that BB missed between the Preakness and Belmont could have conceivably cost him a length or two in the Belmont but not the 20+ lengths that he lost by.

no telling what the lengths lost by would be in the belmont had he finished the race.

and i never have thought only the foot cost him the belmont, but it contributed to his loss.

[Stall Mucker]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Dutrow on 5/18:

"The Haskell is not a prestigious race to win like the Travers"

Maybe IEAH doesn't like the hospitality of the detention barn

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

This talk about the horse tailing off in the Preakness is ridiculous. The speed figure is meaningless when a horse is totally geared down the final 1/16th of a mile. The horse could have won the Preakness by at least an additional 4-5 lengths if he would have been asked. He would have run just as high of a speed figure in the Preakness as the Derby if he would have been asked that final 1/16th of a mile.

I think this is not possible. and that no matter how much he was asked he would have run about the same figure, the horse was slowing down moreso than being geared down. How would it be possible to improve 4-5 lengths in the last six seconds? he'd have to run almost a length faster every second. come on now. there is no way that race was as good as his derby.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I think this is not possible. and that no matter how much he was asked he would have run about the same figure, the horse was slowing down moreso than being geared down. How would it be possible to improve 4-5 lengths in the last six seconds? he'd have to run almost a length faster every second. come on now. there is no way that race was as good as his derby.

The horse was under a strangle-hold the final 1/16th of a mile. He probably ran his final 1/16th in about :7 1/5 or :7 2/5. If he would have been asked, he would have probably run it in about :6 2/5. One length equals approximately 1/5th of a second.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Let them go to the Haskell, I'm tired of the drama. I stayed off the hate IEAH bandwagon because I really like their horse, but now I could care less.
If I'm an owner I'd jump at the chance to run at the Spa.

Agreed..and maybe we will have a nice full field for the Travers! can't wait!