6/14 (CD): Stephen Foster Day

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by Danzig

welll, if that's as high as you're setting the bar, i'd say he's already there.

lol.....

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Danzig

near the top old time? i doubt it.


turf horses run on dirt to try to boost their fee, not the other way 'round.

Did you see the 1973 Man O'War?

[jcs11204]

time to be serious....
what are curlins plans, i asked this last week ? is the arc in the plans, i think i read, they wont go to the BCC because of the surface, so why not the Arc ?

[The Bid]

Has anyone heard anything from the loudmouths over at IEAH? Its pretty obvious who walks softly and carries the big stick. Hopefully Big Brown makes it into a starting gate with Curlin, he may learn something

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Has anyone heard anything from the loudmouths over at IEAH? Its pretty obvious who walks softly and carries the big stick. Hopefully Big Brown makes it into a starting gate with Curlin, he may learn something

even if big brown runs again... he will never ever EVER EVER EVER EVer EVER EVER EVER, run against curlin....

IEAH WOULD NEVER DO THAT TO THE POOR HORSE. i doubt they even think big brown could run with curlin

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Has anyone heard anything from the loudmouths over at IEAH? Its pretty obvious who walks softly and carries the big stick. Hopefully Big Brown makes it into a starting gate with Curlin, he may learn something

I'd imagine a War Emblem-type end to his career. First, a paid public workout doubling as a "return to glory" in cahoots with some publicity-hungry track (Suffolk, Arlington, Monmouth?) in a preconceived setup of a race ala the '02 Haskell followed by a definitive failure to achieve "greatness" when getting bounced around and crushed in the BC Classic after finally facing a quality-laden field.

The icing on the cake will be if his owners' narcissistic greed get the better of them after a BC loss and, desperate to get a win versus his elders, further humiliate him in the Cigar Mile, the way Coronado's Quest's connections (ie the evil Claiborne Farm junta) exposed his rather modest capabilities (not that he couldn't have improved from 3 to 4) in the final 3 races of his career.

Or he'll just never run again...

[The Bid]

I cant wait to see what those buffoons do

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Have to say... Having Curlin to watch is a treat.

Right. Getting to watch a previous year's 3-yr-old standout is an all-too-rare treat.

The Foster was posted on YouTube by 4 different people. Here's one:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=foLoLOKfNaA

--Dunbar

[CSC]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

time to be serious....
what are curlins plans, i asked this last week ? is the arc in the plans, i think i read, they wont go to the BCC because of the surface, so why not the Arc ?

Asmussen was quoted saying he wants Curlin's next start to be on turf, either The Man O War, Arlington, or Woodbine...essentially to see if the target of the PRIX DE'LARC DE TRIOMPHE is a feasible one.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

His second in a grade 1 on the dirt meant more to his future than winning a grade 3 on the turf ever will. It's okay to admit when you are wrong every once in awhile.

All of you ninnies can die in a fire. Until the season is over I stand by what I say.

[Storm Cadet]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

All of you ninnies can die in a fire. Until the season is over I stand by what I say.

Relax

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by CSC

Asmussen was quoted saying he wants Curlin's next start to be on turf, either The Man O War, Arlington, or Woodbine...essentially to see if the target of the PRIX DE'LARC DE TRIOMPHE is a feasible one.

Well, here's hoping he takes to the turf as well as the 1973 winner of the Man O' War did. There's never been an American winner of the Arc, has there?

Originally Posted by Storm Cadet

Relax

No. I'm not letting Captain Nitpick get his way. The stallion career reasoning is baffling to me. Last time I checked this horse was still out of Spend a Buck.

I just want someone to explain to me from a racing fans perspective how this race can be beneficial to Einstein's racing campaign from this day forward? Will this witch hunt end when he throws in a clunker in the Arlington Million?

[ateamstupid]

Why's he going to run badly in the Million? Because of that super taxing suck-up second yesterday?

Yeah it was a hand ride to get past Barcola.

[kgar311]

Hey Coach im not trying to gang up on you here but one of the reasons I come on here is to read your comedic stylings in your posts. You are a truely funny person, dont turn into a hater like most people on this board. But I have to say I was impressed with Einstiens performance and im sure the connections got exactly what they wanted to out of this race. But its not like my opinion matters much here anyways.

[Storm Cadet]

Coach...please explain the difference between what Einsteins connections did running on the dirt then what Secretariats did running him on grass and Curlins discussing the real probability of him running on the weeds?

As a racing fan and previous owner, I personally don't care what surface a horse races on as long as he's competitive and could make him a more attractive asset down the road. Not every race has to be for a win BTW. You think the West Point people are UNHAPPY with their 2nd place Preakness finish? It's about the Franklins $$$$ IMO. And as many trainers state everyday, their decisions are not about making racing fans HAPPY.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Did you see the 1973 Man O'War?

yeah, no doubt sec's fee rose after that race....

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Well, here's hoping he takes to the turf as well as the 1973 winner of the Man O' War did. There's never been an American winner of the Arc, has there?

North American-breds, yes, several times. North American-trained, no, mainly because it has rarely been tried, if at all. Longchamps, the track where the Arc is run, is a horseshoe-shaped RIGHT-handed track, which is the biggest hurdle for US-types, along with the soft ground that so often turns up for the Arc. US-raced horses never have to turn right-handed at speed, they have never developed the muscles or flexibility on that side (unlike Euro-horses) and would be running with a major disadvantage.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

North American-breds, yes, several times. North American-trained, no, mainly because it has rarely been tried, if at all. Longchamps, the track where the Arc is run, is a horseshoe-shaped RIGHT-handed track, which is the biggest hurdle for US-types, along with the soft ground that so often turns up for the Arc. US-raced horses never have to turn right-handed at speed, they have never developed the muscles or flexibility on that side (unlike Euro-horses) and would be running with a major disadvantage.

Looks like they're discussing trying it:


http://racing.bloodhorse.com/article/45743.htm

Thanks for the post, PA- who were some of the American-bred winners and did any of them race in the US or were their careers entirely overseas?