Anderson Cooper

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

After thought...

I'll stay with the facts, and just the facts.
For those that attack me for voicing my opinions that are based on them, wherein there are no facts presented...it's just nonsense, and BS.
Bold Ruler, are YOU LISTENING? And not speaking for others?

Here's another Jewish position (one that I find a lot to agree with):

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0809-20.htm

Peace.

in response to the author in the link(that you agree with).......

"There is a well-financed Israeli lobby that funds politicians and dominates the op-ed pages. What else explains the dramatic difference in public opinion in this country and overseas? Why do polls show Americans and Israelis backing the war while the world calls for a cease fire?"


I don't think the Israeli Lobby is the main reason the majority of Americans
back the War to destroy Hezbollah.I think Americans lost over 3 thousand people to
terrorist thug Moslems,and recognize them as scum that you can't have peace with.Cease fire
for what reason?...Not to negotiate peace.......Hezbollah's only sense of peace will come from
kicking every Jew out of Israel.
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"Don’t they know that human rights are universal and cannot be invoked selectively? Israel cannot be given a special pass: it has to obey international laws and UN resolutions, not just the ones it agrees with."

This only points out why terrorism is so awful.Terrorists make it impossible to kill them while at the same time protect civilians.They dropped leaflets.They let everyone there know that they are going to bomb neighborhoods that harbor terrorist Hezbollah.See,this author wants Israel to do what?Kill only Hezbollah militiamen? Great.Stop using civilians to protect you.Wear your uniforms like ya do in your parades.Come fight in the open like Israel's army is doing.They won't do that (because they are terrorists.) Just points out why terrorism is horrible(terrorists use civilians as human shieds.)
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"Just as the shelling of civilians by Hezbollah is unacceptable, so is the widespread Israeli devastation of a neighboring country, one ironically, with many people who wanted to live in peace with Israel."

A country who allowed members of Hezbollah to be part of the Government.A country which allowed Hezbollah to openly operate within it's borders.The country is not innocent if it allows terrorists to do this.If you expect peace with Israel,then don't allow those hell bent on it's destruction to prosper in your country.This has to get through to other Governments:don't expect to get away with tolerating terrorist activity in your country.Terrorists will be fought where they are allowed to live.The people in Lebanon were content to have these terrorists living in their country.Don't tolerate terrorists.Simple as that.
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"If anything, this Bush-backed war will radicalize Lebanon as it is the Middle East and fuel more anti-Semitism and hostility to Israel. It has turned Hezbollah into a hero in the region."


Already was a hero there,or they wouldn't have been tolerated in Lebanon. Fuel more anti-Semitism and hostility to Israel? Hard to imagine it any worse than it is.God forbide Israel go after those that commit terrorist acts against them.The region already thinks terrorists are heroes.This is the problem to begin with.Very few democrocies there.That tells you a lot.
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"There’s not one word of interest or concern here with the civilian victims of bombing in Lebanon or the conditions of Palestinians in Gaza. Not one word of compassion or interest in meeting prominent Israelis who feel this war is not in Israel’s interest. It strikes me as more reinforcement for the already deeply held prejudices."

Again,those that accept terrorists to thrive amongst them are at risk of being hurt by those that have to kill the terrorists.I don't know why some people are so thickheaded about this.They don't get it.Terrorists that hang out with civilians have themselves to blame when civilians are killed.Civilians know they are at risk when they openly accept terrorists in their neighborhood.The author is asking for terrorists to not be attacked(because civilians will get hurt.)Well,they can keep coming to Israel and blowing buses up,but terrorists can't be targeted if civilians are nearby? Sounds like a great deal for the terrorists.Just hide in highly populated areas.See,it is great to want to protect the civilians that he says are innocent,but he has no alternative to get the terrorists away from these civilians.There is none.Again,the thing people ignore is that terrorism is horrible.Israel is having to do horrible things to destroy terrorists.The nature of terrorism is to end up with as many innocent people as possible getting hurt.If you support terrorist groups,then it is hypocritical to then complain about innocent people getting hurt.That's what terrorists do.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

in response to the author in the link(that you agree with).......

"There is a well-financed Israeli lobby that funds politicians and dominates the op-ed pages. What else explains the dramatic difference in public opinion in this country and overseas? Why do polls show Americans and Israelis backing the war while the world calls for a cease fire?"


I don't think the Israeli Lobby is the main reason the majority of Americans
back the War to destroy Hezbollah.I think Americans lost over 3 thousand people to
terrorist thug Moslems,and recognize them as scum that you can't have peace with.Cease fire
for what reason?...Not to negotiate peace.......Hezbollah's only sense of peace will come from
kicking every Jew out of Israel.
__________________________________________________ __________________________

"Don’t they know that human rights are universal and cannot be invoked selectively? Israel cannot be given a special pass: it has to obey international laws and UN resolutions, not just the ones it agrees with."

This only points out why terrorism is so awful.Terrorists make it impossible to kill them while at the same time protect civilians.They dropped leaflets.They let everyone there know that they are going to bomb neighborhoods that harbor terrorist Hezbollah.See,this author wants Israel to do what?Kill only Hezbollah militiamen? Great.Stop using civilians to protect you.Wear your uniforms like ya do in your parades.Come fight in the open like Israel's army is doing.They won't do that (because they are terrorists.) Just points out why terrorism is horrible(terrorists use civilians as human shieds.)
__________________________________________________ _____________________________________-

"Just as the shelling of civilians by Hezbollah is unacceptable, so is the widespread Israeli devastation of a neighboring country, one ironically, with many people who wanted to live in peace with Israel."

A country who allowed members of Hezbollah to be part of the Government.A country which allowed Hezbollah to openly operate within it's borders.The country is not innocent if it allows terrorists to do this.If you expect peace with Israel,then don't allow those hell bent on it's destruction to prosper in your country.This has to get through to other Governments:don't expect to get away with tolerating terrorist activity in your country.Terrorists will be fought where they are allowed to live.The people in Lebanon were content to have these terrorists living in their country.Don't tolerate terrorists.Simple as that.
__________________________________________________ _____________________________________

"If anything, this Bush-backed war will radicalize Lebanon as it is the Middle East and fuel more anti-Semitism and hostility to Israel. It has turned Hezbollah into a hero in the region."


Already was a hero there,or they wouldn't have been tolerated in Lebanon. Fuel more anti-Semitism and hostility to Israel? Hard to imagine it any worse than it is.God forbide Israel go after those that commit terrorist acts against them.The region already thinks terrorists are heroes.This is the problem to begin with.Very few democrocies there.That tells you a lot.
__________________________________________________ ________________________________________
"There’s not one word of interest or concern here with the civilian victims of bombing in Lebanon or the conditions of Palestinians in Gaza. Not one word of compassion or interest in meeting prominent Israelis who feel this war is not in Israel’s interest. It strikes me as more reinforcement for the already deeply held prejudices."

Again,those that accept terrorists to thrive amongst them are at risk of being hurt by those that have to kill the terrorists.I don't know why some people are so thickheaded about this.They don't get it.Terrorists that hang out with civilians have themselves to blame when civilians are killed.Civilians know they are at risk when they openly accept terrorists in their neighborhood.The author is asking for terrorists to not be attacked(because civilians will get hurt.)Well,they can keep coming to Israel and blowing buses up,but terrorists can't be targeted if civilians are nearby? Sounds like a great deal for the terrorists.Just hide in highly populated areas.See,it is great to want to protect the civilians that he says are innocent,but he has no alternative to get the terrorists away from these civilians.There is none.Again,the thing people ignore is that terrorism is horrible.Israel is having to do horrible things to destroy terrorists.The nature of terrorism is to end up with as many innocent people as possible getting hurt.If you support terrorist groups,then it is hypocritical to then complain about innocent people getting hurt.That's what terrorists do.

Scuds,
Thanks for your well thought response.
I do not support terrorist groups. Both sides have accused the other side of being so.
Do I have sympathy for "innocents getting hurt"?
That's very obvious.
Am I hypocrytical for saying so?
That's for you to judge.

So, here we are...what is it, day 25? Do you see an end short of nuclear weapons or Israeli occupation?
How would you, should you have the power to do so, find resolution?
DTS

[SCUDSBROTHER]

DTS..The goal is to disarm Hezbollah.I don't care what day it is.The important day is the one that it is finished on.The Hezbollah can't be bargained with.Exactly what deal is going to be made here? Their goals are to push the JEWS into the Sea.Have you heard of some way to change that?ISRAEL'S goal is to get their soldiers back,and disarm Hezbollah.You're assuming it is o.k. to leave Hezbollah to live in Southern Lebanon.Not everybody finds it acceptable for that scum to be there.Maybe it will be ended by Israel forcing the scum to run off to Syria.

Israel needs to just completely destroy hezbollah. You can't negotiate with terrorists.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

in response to the author in the link(that you agree with).......

"There is a well-financed Israeli lobby that funds politicians and dominates the op-ed pages. What else explains the dramatic difference in public opinion in this country and overseas? Why do polls show Americans and Israelis backing the war while the world calls for a cease fire?"


I don't think the Israeli Lobby is the main reason the majority of Americans
back the War to destroy Hezbollah.I think Americans lost over 3 thousand people to
terrorist thug Moslems,and recognize them as scum that you can't have peace with.Cease fire
for what reason?...Not to negotiate peace.......Hezbollah's only sense of peace will come from
kicking every Jew out of Israel.
__________________________________________________ __________________________

"Don’t they know that human rights are universal and cannot be invoked selectively? Israel cannot be given a special pass: it has to obey international laws and UN resolutions, not just the ones it agrees with."

This only points out why terrorism is so awful.Terrorists make it impossible to kill them while at the same time protect civilians.They dropped leaflets.They let everyone there know that they are going to bomb neighborhoods that harbor terrorist Hezbollah.See,this author wants Israel to do what?Kill only Hezbollah militiamen? Great.Stop using civilians to protect you.Wear your uniforms like ya do in your parades.Come fight in the open like Israel's army is doing.They won't do that (because they are terrorists.) Just points out why terrorism is horrible(terrorists use civilians as human shieds.)
__________________________________________________ _____________________________________-

"Just as the shelling of civilians by Hezbollah is unacceptable, so is the widespread Israeli devastation of a neighboring country, one ironically, with many people who wanted to live in peace with Israel."

A country who allowed members of Hezbollah to be part of the Government.A country which allowed Hezbollah to openly operate within it's borders.The country is not innocent if it allows terrorists to do this.If you expect peace with Israel,then don't allow those hell bent on it's destruction to prosper in your country.This has to get through to other Governments:don't expect to get away with tolerating terrorist activity in your country.Terrorists will be fought where they are allowed to live.The people in Lebanon were content to have these terrorists living in their country.Don't tolerate terrorists.Simple as that.
__________________________________________________ _____________________________________

"If anything, this Bush-backed war will radicalize Lebanon as it is the Middle East and fuel more anti-Semitism and hostility to Israel. It has turned Hezbollah into a hero in the region."


Already was a hero there,or they wouldn't have been tolerated in Lebanon. Fuel more anti-Semitism and hostility to Israel? Hard to imagine it any worse than it is.God forbide Israel go after those that commit terrorist acts against them.The region already thinks terrorists are heroes.This is the problem to begin with.Very few democrocies there.That tells you a lot.
__________________________________________________ ________________________________________
"There’s not one word of interest or concern here with the civilian victims of bombing in Lebanon or the conditions of Palestinians in Gaza. Not one word of compassion or interest in meeting prominent Israelis who feel this war is not in Israel’s interest. It strikes me as more reinforcement for the already deeply held prejudices."

Again,those that accept terrorists to thrive amongst them are at risk of being hurt by those that have to kill the terrorists.I don't know why some people are so thickheaded about this.They don't get it.Terrorists that hang out with civilians have themselves to blame when civilians are killed.Civilians know they are at risk when they openly accept terrorists in their neighborhood.The author is asking for terrorists to not be attacked(because civilians will get hurt.)Well,they can keep coming to Israel and blowing buses up,but terrorists can't be targeted if civilians are nearby? Sounds like a great deal for the terrorists.Just hide in highly populated areas.See,it is great to want to protect the civilians that he says are innocent,but he has no alternative to get the terrorists away from these civilians.There is none.Again,the thing people ignore is that terrorism is horrible.Israel is having to do horrible things to destroy terrorists.The nature of terrorism is to end up with as many innocent people as possible getting hurt.If you support terrorist groups,then it is hypocritical to then complain about innocent people getting hurt.That's what terrorists do.

Excellent post! I think you are right on the money with everything you said.