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Old 06-10-2008, 04:14 PM
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Has there been any rain since Saturday?
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:14 PM
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Romp and Saint Barr might take more money.
beaten chalk by a combined 27 lengths the last 3 starts...no thanks...
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:17 PM
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Interesting to see Romp back less than two weeks after falling (???) in his last effort.
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:19 PM
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beaten chalk by a combined 27 lengths the last 3 starts...no thanks...
He should like the grass though...
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:20 PM
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Has there been any rain since Saturday?

Brief thunderstorm Sunday and there might be the same tonight. It won't affect the turf.
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:22 PM
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Really? Please tell me the three or four horses that are going to take more money than him. I'm very curious.
just my opinion...

Sumphin - multiple winner, winner over the track...
Romp (will be close to SM on the board) - multiple winner, i know 2-21, but 5-5 in the money on the BEL lawn...
Personal Good (will also be close to SM on the board) - high beyer in the field
Dancing Tin Man - your favorite...
Saint Barr - hasn't been higher than 4/1 in his last 10 races, and has been favored in his last 3 money burning efforts, but they keep betting him...

now that we've completely over analyzed this, it will pour and be taken off the turf, though I hope not...

honestly after DTM, I think the other 4 and Stormy Mirage could end up anywhere from 7/2 to 8/1...
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:30 PM
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Here's the mistake you're making.....you discovered Stormy Mirage's obvious merits. Everybody else will as well. He's not exactly a clever horse. I'm not trying to be an ass....I'm just pointing it out.

I happen to agree with you that he's interesting. Whether or not he beats the favorite is another story. Obviously if I thought he would be anywhere close to his ML I would be intrigued. I don't, however, see the race that way. Maybe I'm wrong....but my guess is the betting will reflect his solid chances of winning. Frankly, if it doesn't, I'm guessing we're the ones who are wrong.
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:38 PM
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Here's the mistake you're making.....you discovered Stormy Mirage's obvious merits. Everybody else will as well. He's not exactly a clever horse. I'm not trying to be an ass....I'm just pointing it out.

I happen to agree with you that he's interesting. Whether or not he beats the favorite is another story. Obviously if I thought he would be anywhere close to his ML I would be intrigued. I don't, however, see the race that way. Maybe I'm wrong....but my guess is the betting will reflect his solid chances of winning. Frankly, if it doesn't, I'm guessing we're the ones who are wrong.
I had that exact same thought as I was putting together the list...

though I still think the time off and the fact that those other horses seem to always take money; Sumphin - 3/2, 9/2, 5/2; Romp - 7/5, 2/1, 2/1; and Saint Barr - 4/5, 3/2, 6/5 we might get a solid price...interestingly, with all of the talk about DTM being the obvious favorite, he is almost never bet as he's only been favored once in his last 12 races, and that was as part of an entry...
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:28 PM
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My second single will be a horse that most of you will not like, La Ransom. She may go off as high a price as ever today, but here is why I like. Last time she broke from the rail (10/18/7), sprinting on turf, she went right to the lead and never looked back. That was with KJD aboard and he's back on today. I don't see anyone who's going to go 22, 45 and 2/5ths even though there is other speed signed on. Lastly, the winner of her last is a lot better than she ran on the 22nd, trust me I know. And as everyone can see Lost Without You came back to win last time. So, I give this second off the layoff the big thumbs up.

I think the connections, if they look at the race, will scratch La Ransom in order to run her entrymate.
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:45 PM
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I think the connections, if they look at the race, will scratch La Ransom in order to run her entrymate.

Are there any other early scratches in the P6 races your aware of sir??
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:59 PM
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Are there any other early scratches in the P6 races your aware of sir??

The scratches come out tomorrow. I don't understand....how would I know of scratches?

I'm just guessing they will scratch La Ransom. If the connections look at the race, and have a pulse, they will scratch her. Whether or not they do is another question.
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Reyana's jet will be scratched. he won on Friday
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:24 PM
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Reyana's jet will be scratched. he won on Friday
I think that was already posted....he's also still a she.
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Romp is a single....save the the spreading for other races. Again, Romp is a single.
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Old 06-10-2008, 09:26 PM
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Really? Please tell me the three or four horses that are going to take more money than him. I'm very curious.
1 Sumphin, 7 Personal Good 8 Dancing Tin Man 11 Saint Barr

Thats not to say the 11 is more likely to win; but the crowd loves to bet Saint Barr every race.
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:10 PM
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Romp is a single....save the the spreading for other races. Again, Romp is a single.
based on what ? seconds, and beating 50 claimers at tampa ? i dont see it
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based on what ? seconds, and beating 50 claimers at tampa ? i dont see it
It's not always so obvious.
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The scratches come out tomorrow. I don't understand....how would I know of scratches?

I'm just guessing they will scratch La Ransom. If the connections look at the race, and have a pulse, they will scratch her. Whether or not they do is another question.
Apparently their lack of pulse did not allow them to look at the race because they are absolutely running the wrong horse.
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Old 06-11-2008, 10:56 AM
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Apparently their lack of pulse did not allow them to look at the race because they are absolutely running the wrong horse.
I totally agree. Given the pace scenario it seemed a no-brainer to run Mine Or Who's. Perhaps the post position draws played a part in the decision.
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Old 06-11-2008, 10:57 AM
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Apparently their lack of pulse did not allow them to look at the race because they are absolutely running the wrong horse.
Maybe that should tell you something...
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