A kinder, gentler Horse Hedge Fund?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You're way wrong on this one Freddy.

That can be taken 2 ways..

1. Zito is a has been.

2. Baffert and Lukas are NOT....


I would say it is #2 because Zito is clearly NOT a has been and once again he beats me out of a Super in the 3rd/4th slots with Anak Nakal....

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by jms62

That can be taken 2 ways..

1. Zito is a has been.

2. Baffert and Lukas are NOT....


I would say it is #2 because Zito is clearly NOT a has been and once again he beats me out of a Super in the 3rd/4th slots with Anak Nakal....

neither BTW thinks its a good idea to start the fund he knows I don't think any of these HOF trainers are superior horseman

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by freddymo

neither BTW thinks its a good idea to start the fund he knows I don't think any of these HOF trainers are superior horseman

Can you translate this?

[GBBob]

or, this could be set up so it's an incredible financial opportunity for Zito. I may be way off base, but it seems that he will be the key man in that group and may be compensated accordingly.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by GBBob

or, this could be set up so it's an incredible financial opportunity for Zito. I may be way off base, but it seems that he will be the key man in that group and may be compensated accordingly.

I am a Zito guy.. And one can make the argument that trainers have to juggle the common interests of several owners all the time.. The difference to me is agenda.. With 100mil the agenda is not going to be racing in anything but Graded stakes(save the preps etc.)..saving 100mil can be intoxicating for someone to have. Ask IEAH and there 5 mil they paid for Court Fees

[ELA]

Already, absent of all facts, everyone has the fund pegged with all of the problems, conflicts of interest, and so on. Just look at the mindset around here. Come on.

This doesn't have to be "anything" that people say it is. Any trainer doesn't have to be "anything" just because someone said so -- has been, not, etc.

Eric

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by ELA

Already, absent of all facts, everyone has the fund pegged with all of the problems, conflicts of interest, and so on. Just look at the mindset around here. Come on.

This doesn't have to be "anything" that people say it is. Any trainer doesn't have to be "anything" just because someone said so -- has been, not, etc.

Eric

Just me not everyone... It's sort of like making a theme park with dinosaurs no matter how many things you think of in advance something is bound to go very wrong. It's a round peg trying to go in a square hole.. I am guessing professional folks are trying to bring honor to the sham of IEAH and still earn a fair buck. The people and effort aren't the issue it's the execution that will be the down fall.

[-BT-]

Lukas huh?
I have seen him with 1 maybe 2 stakes/handicap caliber horses over the last 12-18th months.... granted the man is a HOF i think he might be slipping a little. His big buyer Van Meter has been pumping a lot of money into his horses and i don't see many results/return for the money.
It will be interested to see if this venture works, but i don't why all the sudden people are trying to form some sort of "hedge fund" partnership for horse racing


and i think for the record IEAH shorted big brown

-bt-

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by -BT-

Lukas huh?
I have seen him with 1 maybe 2 stakes/handicap caliber horses over the last 12-18th months.... granted the man is a HOF i think he might be slipping a little. His big buyer Van Meter has been pumping a lot of money into his horses and i don't see many results/return for the money.
It will be interested to see if this venture works, but i don't why all the sudden people are trying to form some sort of "hedge fund" partnership for horse racing


and i think for the record IEAH shorted big brown

-bt-

10 to 20 mil reasons why without any success needed

[Scav]

Originally Posted by -BT-

Lukas huh?
I have seen him with 1 maybe 2 stakes/handicap caliber horses over the last 12-18th months.... granted the man is a HOF i think he might be slipping a little. His big buyer Van Meter has been pumping a lot of money into his horses and i don't see many results/return for the money.
It will be interested to see if this venture works, but i don't why all the sudden people are trying to form some sort of "hedge fund" partnership for horse racing


and i think for the record IEAH shorted big brown

-bt-

It is becuase it is a hot word, that is all. The word Hedge Fund elludes things like success/power/largeness, but all it really is, is a high level partnership