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Old 06-09-2008, 02:44 AM
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He'll return and win both Keeneland meets running off the farm.
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Old 06-09-2008, 06:04 AM
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He'll return and win both Keeneland meets running off the farm.

You can get a square price on that.
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Old 06-09-2008, 06:59 AM
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Cheating stinks no matter who does it. I always thought Biancone's horses were turned out well and wouldn't think twice about betting on his horses again. He is a very good trainer from all reports. You don't get horses from the folks he gets horses from because your hair cut is gorgeous and you have a a special beer belly. I guess the guy is a dam good horseman...save the snake juice
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:31 AM
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Cheating stinks no matter who does it. I always thought Biancone's horses were turned out well and wouldn't think twice about betting on his horses again. He is a very good trainer from all reports. You don't get horses from the folks he gets horses from because your hair cut is gorgeous and you have a a special beer belly. I guess the guy is a dam good horseman...save the snake juice
Being a good horseman and being a cheater are not mutually exclusive concepts.
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:32 AM
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Cheating stinks no matter who does it. I always thought Biancone's horses were turned out well and wouldn't think twice about betting on his horses again. He is a very good trainer from all reports. You don't get horses from the folks he gets horses from because your hair cut is gorgeous and you have a a special beer belly. I guess the guy is a dam good horseman...save the snake juice
Save for the part about being a cheat on 2 continents...
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:41 AM
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Isn't there an on-going investigation or scheduled hearing or something regarding possible violations of his suspension terms? I would assume that his return could be delayed if this was determined to be the case. I can't recall the specifics, but maybe someone can find a related article and post a link.
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:51 AM
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Save for the part about being a cheat on 2 continents...
I will not defend his cheating but i am certain the guy is a top notch trainer, perhaps with a few vices he needs to correct
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:56 AM
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We have seen great teams and athletes, throughout the world of sports, cheat. We've seen entertainers and performers "cheat" (to some extent, if we would include lipsyncing as cheating per se).

While certainly not a defense or justification, as a matter of fact it's irrelevant; but a trainer can be an excellent trainer, horseman, etc. -- but also be cheating. OTOH, there are great trainers and horsemen who produce results and do not cheat.

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Old 06-09-2008, 09:01 AM
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I guess I'm surprised that on a board, and in a racing environment in general, that questions the need for any steroids at all, the use of whips, etc, that a trainer(s) who are convicted cheaters, and not just for trace evidence, would be given the benefit of the doubt that their "greatness" is independant from their cheating.
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:57 AM
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Freddy, I respect your opinion, but I have a hard time seperating where his horsemanship begins and his chemistry ends.
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:14 AM
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Save for the part about being a cheat on 2 continents...
Come on now... Is that really fair?

It is three continents!

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Has anyone been following his progress since the return?I am wondering if he will be at Keeneland next month?
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:09 AM
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Abysmal.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:17 AM
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Has anyone been following his progress since the return?I am wondering if he will be at Keeneland next month?
1 for 40 at the current Santa Anita meet. Maybe we have a better sense now where the good horsemanship began and the chemistry ends.
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