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Old 06-05-2008, 08:03 AM
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I think it may have had something to do with him running down on the inside, which might not have been the ideal part of the track that day.
A man of your stature should't fall for a phony dead rail excuse.

I wish I could turn back the clock to the 70s, and the dead rails of Belmont, so people could see what a dead rail really looks like.
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Old 06-05-2008, 08:44 AM
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The one in Erie has been pretty epic.
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:05 AM
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On a real dead rail horses evaporate when racing inside.
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On a real dead rail horses evaporate when racing inside.
They had been for almost two weeks - untill almost suddenly no one would go down there anymore.

Hard to call it a dead rail though when no one is remotely near it....except maybe Fogelsonger every now and then.
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It gets very hard for me to say that Alex should have won the Derby when I felt that Closing Argument ran a harder and tougher race than he did. Same thing with Silver Charm. Baffert and SC's fans talk about his heart and say that if he could have seen Touch Gold coming to him, he would have fought him off. That may be true........but what about the fact that SC shouldn't even have been going for the sweep because Touch Gold was far superior to him in the Preakness but had a nightmare of a trip that day?
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:59 AM
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They had been for almost two weeks - untill almost suddenly no one would go down there anymore.

Hard to call it a dead rail though when no one is remotely near it....except maybe Fogelsonger every now and then.
M Mena didnt get the memo.
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:07 AM
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On a real dead rail horses evaporate when racing inside.
I was a big fan of AA and use the rail to excuse him hanging, though he may have just been out of gas. Giacomo and Closing argument were to his outside and the Giacomo and AA were on almost even terms with 1/16 to go when Rose goes to the right handed whip, AA goes in a little and spins his wheels. Maybe I just want to see it that way, but the case can be made. It rained all week at Churchill that week and the rail was a bit heavy if nothing else.
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:27 AM
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A man of your stature should't fall for a phony dead rail excuse.

I wish I could turn back the clock to the 70s, and the dead rails of Belmont, so people could see what a dead rail really looks like.
The winner of the race was on the rail for a mile so not sure I think it was dead either.
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:38 AM
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The winner of the race was on the rail for a mile so not sure I think it was dead either.
I remember Giacomo getting shut off at the start - and being quite wide around the first turn.
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Old 06-05-2008, 03:38 PM
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I remember Giacomo getting shut off at the start - and being quite wide around the first turn.
he tucked in off the heals of Greelys Galaxy going into the first turn and was on the rail until coming out after the QP.

trust me, I have watched that race a time or two.
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A man of your stature should't fall for a phony dead rail excuse.

I wish I could turn back the clock to the 70s, and the dead rails of Belmont, so people could see what a dead rail really looks like.
i thought your only in your 20's now ?
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If he couldn't find it within himself to beat GIACOMO then he didn't deserve to be a Triple Crown winner.
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:20 PM
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If he couldn't find it within himself to beat GIACOMO then he didn't deserve to be a Triple Crown winner.
No doubt.

Giacomo or Closing Argument in fact.
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i thought your only in your 20's now ?
He owns a time machine.
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A man of your stature should't fall for a phony dead rail excuse.

I wish I could turn back the clock to the 70s, and the dead rails of Belmont, so people could see what a dead rail really looks like.
Oh, I didn't mean any of that as a personal opinion. I really couldn't recall why Afleet Alex had a "bad" trip in the Derby and had a vague recollection that this was the excuse.

Basically, I used the intial post about Afleet Alex to use as a springboard to rant about other, more interesting Triple Crown years that don't involve Giacomo...
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God, I wish I was still in my 20s.

I've lived in my apartment for 20 years.
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God, I wish I was still in my 20s.

I've lived in my apartment for 20 years.
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must be rent controlled

I own it.
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