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Old 06-04-2008, 04:58 PM
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Dime supers have a tendency to hurt other pools and the tracks overall handle.

With a dime super, a person will take $10 and spend $2.40 on the four horse box at a few difference tracks. Without dime supers, they often take the $10 and spend it at the home track instead.
Yeah, but that's the home track's fault for not having dime supers.

There isn't much to base an argument one way or another on, but I feel like people are just looking at the decreased ticket prices and saying it hurts handle, and not factoring in new players who wouldn't have played the super AT ALL were it not available for $.10.
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Old 06-04-2008, 05:06 PM
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If they allowed dime supers on Saturday one would have to get on line to bet the 10th around the 5th. Imagine all the once a year players fumbling to call out or punch in their supers.
They could still have them on Friday.
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Old 06-04-2008, 07:40 PM
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If they allowed dime supers on Saturday one would have to get on line to bet the 10th around the 5th. Imagine all the once a year players fumbling to call out or punch in their supers.
They could still have them on Friday.
I still think that the "dime supers tie up the lines" is a myth.
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:20 PM
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I still think that the "dime supers tie up the lines" is a myth.
We don't know one way or another because there hasn't been a day with 100,000 in attendance that had dime supers. We can only talk in terms of potential, and it has the POTENTIAL to be a total cluster****. Though I don't think it would be that severe, I think that they would cause SOME slowdown, which is not something you can afford on a day where it take 10 minutes to make a bet.
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:27 PM
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We don't know one way or another because there hasn't been a day with 100,000 in attendance that had dime supers. We can only talk in terms of potential, and it has the POTENTIAL to be a total cluster****. Though I don't think it would be that severe, I think that they would cause SOME slowdown, which is not something you can afford on a day where it take 10 minutes to make a bet.
When there are 100,000 people at any track it is a cluster****. Keeneland seems not to have a problem despite a crowded grandstand every Fri, Sat, and Sunday. Novices just box 3 or 4 numbers anyway. Does it take longer to say 1 dollar trifecta box 3/4/7 than it takes to say .10 super box 2/4/7/9 ? Your logic assumes that these people who dont know how to bet are going to be constructing elaborate tickets when most of the tourists will be betting 2 bucks across the board. It doesnt take any longer to call out ten cent supers as it does 1 dollar supers. Plus arent all you guys betting at the high dollar windows anyway?
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:28 PM
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I don't think many people are going to be constructing elaborate tickets, but rather calling out a million combinations one-by-one.. That's way worse..
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:30 PM
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I don't think many people are going to be constructing elaborate tickets, but rather calling out a million combinations one-by-one.. That's way worse..
That simply doesnt happen.
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:33 PM
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When there are 100,000 people at any track it is a cluster****. Keeneland seems not to have a problem despite a crowded grandstand every Fri, Sat, and Sunday. Novices just box 3 or 4 numbers anyway. Does it take longer to say 1 dollar trifecta box 3/4/7 than it takes to say .10 super box 2/4/7/9 ? Your logic assumes that these people who dont know how to bet are going to be constructing elaborate tickets when most of the tourists will be betting 2 bucks across the board. It doesnt take any longer to call out ten cent supers as it does 1 dollar supers. Plus arent all you guys betting at the high dollar windows anyway?

it takes a very long time for the old lady and her purse that is arguing while digging for a dime.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:40 AM
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When there are 100,000 people at any track it is a cluster****. Keeneland seems not to have a problem despite a crowded grandstand every Fri, Sat, and Sunday. Novices just box 3 or 4 numbers anyway. Does it take longer to say 1 dollar trifecta box 3/4/7 than it takes to say .10 super box 2/4/7/9 ? Your logic assumes that these people who dont know how to bet are going to be constructing elaborate tickets when most of the tourists will be betting 2 bucks across the board. It doesnt take any longer to call out ten cent supers as it does 1 dollar supers. Plus arent all you guys betting at the high dollar windows anyway?
I was only at Keeneland one weekend but I actually found it the slowest track to place a wager at of any track I have been at outside of Derby Day. Oaks Day, Travers Day, Belmont Day, Preakness Day I've never had problems. Maybe they've added more machines in the past few years but they had a huge shortage of them when I was there that made for long lines at the tellers.
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