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Old 06-05-2006, 08:58 AM
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Someone remind me of the last dead closer to win the Belmont...
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Old 06-05-2006, 09:13 AM
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Someone remind me of the last dead closer to win the Belmont...
Let's see, who beat Smarty Jones,,,,,,,,,,, Birdstone or something like that and I think we could consider him a closer.
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Old 06-05-2006, 09:15 AM
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as would i going by his pedigree and dosage.
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Old 06-05-2006, 01:28 PM
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"Someone remind me of the last dead closer to win the Belmont..."

Afleet Alex was something of a closer and he won it easily last year. He was sitting well back through the first mile.
I think stalkers and closers have about an equal chance in this race, and the key is just who can get the distance. Aptitude and Wolf Power were both good horses at distances beyond 9 furlongs, so I definitely think Steppenwolfer will run a strong race. He just isn't a horse that wins races however, so I think he'll probably finish second or third.
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Old 06-05-2006, 01:30 PM
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"Someone remind me of the last dead closer to win the Belmont..."

Afleet Alex was something of a closer and he won it easily last year. He was sitting well back through the first mile.
I think stalkers and closers have about an equal chance in this race, and the key is just who can get the distance. Aptitude and Wolf Power were both good horses at distances beyond 9 furlongs, so I definitely think Steppenwolfer will run a strong race. He just isn't a horse that wins races however, so I think he'll probably finish second or third.

Afleet Alex...that was a good horse. He was a prince among them last year. He towered over last year's crop of three year olds, and was much the best.
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Old 06-05-2006, 01:31 PM
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Victory Gallop
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Old 06-05-2006, 01:38 PM
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Yeah that is true. He was definitely a closer. I think Afleet Alex was a closer too, but for some reason his connections did not realize that until his final two races.
Rose rode that horse in the Derby like he was on Smarty Jones when he should have acted like he was on Strike the Gold. The horse was so classy that he still managed to hit the board, but if he had been allowed to close we probably would have had a TC winner last year.
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Old 06-05-2006, 07:33 PM
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Afleet Alex...that was a good horse. He was a prince among them last year. He towered over last year's crop of three year olds, and was much the best.
I agree with you here Roses. If you ask me it's a shame he couldnt grab the Derby and I really think he may have if that glorified quarter horse, Spanish Chestnut was not in the race. That and he ran late down the rail, which was dead that afternoon.

Not to mention, the horse had such a great backstory, and so many emotional connections. Call me a sap, but that stuff makes this game great, too!
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Old 06-05-2006, 07:45 PM
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I agree with you here Roses. If you ask me it's a shame he couldnt grab the Derby and I really think he may have if that glorified quarter horse, Spanish Chestnut was not in the race. That and he ran late down the rail, which was dead that afternoon.

Not to mention, the horse had such a great backstory, and so many emotional connections. Call me a sap, but that stuff makes this game great, too!

It was stuff of which movies are made.I loved this horse like no other.His Preakness will forever remain unforgettable.
I finally thought I had his successor in Barbaro and,of course, another tragic dissappointment.Eish there was someone on the horizon to get that excited about.
As for this year's Belmont, I'm thinking High Finance for the reasons mentioned above, but also, Sunriver.Pletcher seems to like him a lot and the Peter Pan could have been a perfect prep for the Belmont.
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Old 06-05-2006, 09:15 AM
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Stppenwolfer And Jazil Will Not Win The Belmont Must Be In A Good Stalking Position And Then Let Them Try To Catch You. I Like Sunriver !!
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