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Old 05-23-2008, 08:14 PM
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How about you just shut the f.uck up, Limbaugh?
There's no getting through to that tool.
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:12 PM
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There's no getting through to that tool.
His last post said it all. I wont have to say anymore....the stuff he is saying is burying him and his views. It's like arguing with a 5th grader.


People are still driving.....too funny....that's the best.
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:46 PM
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Listen to the evidence people put forth to "prove" that the economy is bad. The housing market, for instance. Housing prices are higher now than they were five years ago. Yet no one suggests that the economy was bad five years ago. So a small percentage of people who never should have owned homes to begin with are going to lose their homes. Big deal. They aren't going to be homeless. They will become what they should have been all along: renters. And at some point in 2008 or 2009, the housing market will level off and prices will slowly start to go up again. Now, if you stupidly purchased a home that you could not afford as an investment in 2005 and hoped to flip it to make a profit, you are probably going to get burned. Does that mean the economy is bad? Only if you are looking to make excuses. If you purchased a home that you COULD afford with the intention of living in it for the duration, you have zero to worry about. This is a fact.

As I have said all along, it's a matter of perspective. Americans have very, very short memories. And they got used to the way things were for the last 10 years: easy money and limited consequences. Compared to the last 10 years, the economy is bad. However, the last 10 years were a joke, and not representative of the way the world, our country, or our economy works. People with an ounce of perspective (or proper education) know this. People who steal their thoughts from the media, or who base their opinions on ridiculous measures like gas prices and the temporary slowdown in the housing market, do not know this. You say the middle class is struggling? Well, maybe that's because too many people run up insane amounts of credit card debt making purchases they can't afford while living a lifestyle that is irresponsible. The problem is it's easier to blame someone else, like the president, than it is to assume responsibility.

Economies on the local, national, and worldwide level, experience booms, busts, and everything in between. Right now, the economy is "fine". It isn't super. It isn't even "better than average" or "good". But it is fine. Sort of like a guy who breaks his leg. The doctor tells his family "He's fine." That doesn't mean he's in perfec health. But there is nothing to worry about.

Yet another recent poll I saw said it best. The majority of Americans think we are in a recession. But it is an indisputable fact that we are NOT in a recession. The numbers simply say otherwise. But since perception is reality in America, this country is in full-on panic mode.

Again, the original comment was "the economy is bad." That is what I was refuting. And I am correct.
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:58 PM
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Listen to the evidence people put forth to "prove" that the economy is bad. The housing market, for instance. Housing prices are higher now than they were five years ago. Yet no one suggests that the economy was bad five years ago. So a small percentage of people who never should have owned homes to begin with are going to lose their homes. Big deal. They aren't going to be homeless. They will become what they should have been all along: renters. And at some point in 2008 or 2009, the housing market will level off and prices will slowly start to go up again. Now, if you stupidly purchased a home that you could not afford as an investment in 2005 and hoped to flip it to make a profit, you are probably going to get burned. Does that mean the economy is bad? Only if you are looking to make excuses. If you purchased a home that you COULD afford with the intention of living in it for the duration, you have zero to worry about. This is a fact.

As I have said all along, it's a matter of perspective. Americans have very, very short memories. And they got used to the way things were for the last 10 years: easy money and limited consequences. Compared to the last 10 years, the economy is bad. However, the last 10 years were a joke, and not representative of the way the world, our country, or our economy works. People with an ounce of perspective (or proper education) know this. People who steal their thoughts from the media, or who base their opinions on ridiculous measures like gas prices and the temporary slowdown in the housing market, do not know this. You say the middle class is struggling? Well, maybe that's because too many people run up insane amounts of credit card debt making purchases they can't afford while living a lifestyle that is irresponsible. The problem is it's easier to blame someone else, like the president, than it is to assume responsibility.

Economies on the local, national, and worldwide level, experience booms, busts, and everything in between. Right now, the economy is "fine". It isn't super. It isn't even "better than average" or "good". But it is fine. Sort of like a guy who breaks his leg. The doctor tells his family "He's fine." That doesn't mean he's in perfec health. But there is nothing to worry about.

Yet another recent poll I saw said it best. The majority of Americans think we are in a recession. But it is an indisputable fact that we are NOT in a recession. The numbers simply say otherwise. But since perception is reality in America, this country is in full-on panic mode.

Again, the original comment was "the economy is bad." That is what I was refuting. And I am correct.
Justin..Since you use the word "perspective" all the time, I get to ask you this..

How old are you?
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:59 PM
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Justin..Since you use the word "perspective" all the time, I get to ask you this..

How old are you?
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:07 PM
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You guys are assholes.

Kent made big money in the 7th.
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:07 PM
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Have you ever been through a "bad" economy?
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:11 PM
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Have you ever been through a "bad" economy?
No. But I know a lot about economics. And I know that many economists would say that the only really "bad" economies we have truly experienced in America were the Great Depression and a period in the 1970s.

Even the recession of the 1990s was not bad. It was part of the normal economic cycle.
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:44 PM
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Explains a lot. Although I had you in the 12-16 yr old range.
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:54 PM
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It's like arguing with a 5th grader.
Have you two compared savings accounts yet?
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:58 PM
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Have you two compared savings accounts yet?
Look, he's the one who questioned whether or not I could hold a job.
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:09 PM
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Look, he's the one who questioned whether or not I could hold a job.
What do savings accounts and holding a job have to do with each other?
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:12 PM
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What do savings accounts and holding a job have to do with each other?
Nothing, and I never mentioned my savings account. I said I would be happy to show him my checking account if he was interested in seeing if I had a job. His clear implication was that I am too big of an idiot to hold a job and earn a living.
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:48 PM
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Nothing, and I never mentioned my savings account. I said I would be happy to show him my checking account if he was interested in seeing if I had a job. His clear implication was that I am too big of an idiot to hold a job and earn a living.

You are so full of sh#t. I made zero reference to how much money you had. I implied that you are truly an idiot and wondered how a dope like yourself could hold a job.

I should know better to argue with some kid who thinks he knows everything.
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:45 PM
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What do savings accounts and holding a job have to do with each other?
That was my point. The dope still doesnt get it.
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:41 PM
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Have you two compared savings accounts yet?

Not yet...although I am sure he is a billionaire with a playboy centerfold wife. Just like every other loudmouth on the net who wants to compare bank accounts.

His cluelessness is amazing though.
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