Very Mixed Feelings

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

I believe they referred to him as that because of where he was based at. Philly Park/unknown trainer etc.. True about the romantic twist comment.. No "warm fuzzy" feelings with the connections of Big Brown.

I get it, I just thought it was ridiculous how the media tried to contort him into some scrappy underdog when he was bred to be a fine horse.

[2MinsToPost]

Just this racing fans' perspective and I believe that I am not alone with these thoughts. I don't care for the human side of Big Brown. Guess what, Big Brown did not choose to be with these people. Its not like he can say enough of this I am off to Zitos' Barn etc.. So, why should I let the people side get in the way of cheering on a horse to something that has not been done in 30 years and will create a positive buzz about this sport we all love for a long time. I am going to enjoy the next three weeks as much as I can. Gonna read all I can read. Then, when June 7th rolls around and they are loading into the gate their will be a level of excitement shared by so many that has not been reached in a long time.

Enjoy this positive time in the sport. Put aside the negatives and take in the positives. Funny thing is, I have this bad feeling about the whole deal being done for the supposed fifty million dollars. So, putting that aside I am for the horse and not the people associated with. Big Brown did not choose his fate, he just wants to beat whoever loads beside him.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I get it, I just thought it was ridiculous how the media tried to contort him into some scrappy underdog when he was bred to be a fine horse.

sort of like seabiscuit in the movie...

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Danzig

sort of like seabiscuit in the movie...

yeah...that ragamuffin direct descendent of Man O War. Horridly bred!

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

yeah...that ragamuffin direct descendent of Man O War. Horridly bred!

Almost as funny as the movie describing War Admiral as 18 hands. I guess the filmmakers thought Shorty versus Shorty wouldn't make for compelling drama.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I get it, I just thought it was ridiculous how the media tried to contort him into some scrappy underdog when he was bred to be a fine horse.

I may be remembering wrong, but I thought at the time Elusive Quality was bred to I'll Get Along his stud fee was about $10,000- Servis thought he was a sire who was going to have a big future, but wasn't there yet and that's why he suggested the mating- getting what he thought would be a good sire at a cheap price. So it was more a case of a future recognized blueblood.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I may be remembering wrong, but I thought at the time Elusive Quality was bred to I'll Get Along his stud fee was about $10,000- Servis thought he was a sire who was going to have a big future, but wasn't there yet and that's why he suggested the mating- getting what he thought would be a good sire at a cheap price. So it was more a case of a future recognized blueblood.

EQ was a lot more then 10k when SJ was conceived

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by freddymo

EQ was a lot more then 10k when SJ was conceived

Do you know how much? I googled before I posted but I couldn't find the answer.

Wait- I just did, and his stud fee was $10,000 until 2003, when it was bumped to $30,000. Smarty having run in '04, that would mean the fee was indeed, $10,000.

Whew- I've got a good memory for useless trivia (and not much else) and was afraid even that was failing me!

Here's the link- it's an interesting piece on EQ.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...pagewanted=all

[GenuineRisk]

And reading the article I was wrong- it was Bob Carmac, not Servis who planned the mating. D'oh!

[MaTH716]

I have to admit, upon hearing the news/rumor (hasn't been confirmed yet), I am pretty dissapointed that June 7th just might be another regular day at Belmont (I know about the other big races that day). If the news is true, I feel like I and the whole racing community have been cheated in some way. Of course I know about all the risks involved (Hell, St Liam had to be put down after a stable accident). But all the positive debate and possible attention that the sport could/would have recieved might turn negative. My personal feelings (not that anyone else should care) really have changed so much during this past couple of weeks, from uncertainty about the horse and connections after the Derby. To outright glee after the Preakness, with the possibility of seeing a TC winner. Even to possibly being at Belmont with my boy to witness possible history in the making. Plus hearing from the huge developing Casino Drive contingent (absolutley making me sick) about the next coming. Even another reason to hope that BB won the Belmont in smashing fashion. I really hope that this is some sort of rumor/hoax and on June 7th we all could still witness history.

[Danzig]

not necessarily a bad thing. IF big brown misses the derby, they need to play up the news that he was not running and that the owners are choosing to do right by the horse and keep him in the barn-since peta has been trying to trumpet racing as cruel, this move would belie that.