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Old 05-11-2008, 12:22 PM
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I don't think it matters really. I don't know why going with JV would be better than going with Take. You mentioned Elliott, but what about Desormeux on Real Quiet? He rode the track before, and RQ still lost.
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:29 PM
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I don't think it matters really. I don't know why going with JV would be better than going with Take. You mentioned Elliott, but what about Desormeux on Real Quiet? He rode the track before, and RQ still lost.
I'm not sure that Real Quiet's loss can be attributed to jock error. And I'm not pushing any particular jock over Take. Just pointing out that because Belmont is somewhat unique with its long, sweeping turns, isn't it an advantage to have ridden the track before to get the timing down, and to lessen the chance of jock error?
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:31 PM
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maybe for a new jock, but not one with Takes experience.
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:45 PM
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Considering Take's home track is Sha Tin, I don't see how our little Belmont track would be a problem for him.
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:51 PM
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Considering Take's home track is Sha Tin, I don't see how our little Belmont track would be a problem for him.
Oh? How big is it?
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:58 PM
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Go look. I'm sure Belmont will seem like a canter through an open meadow compared to Sha Tin.
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Go look. I'm sure Belmont will seem like a canter through an open meadow compared to Sha Tin.
If my math is right (for circumference):

Sha Tin
1899 meters
or 1.17998 miles

Belmont
2414.016 meters
or 1.5 miles
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Old 05-11-2008, 01:06 PM
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Considering Take's home track is Sha Tin, I don't see how our little Belmont track would be a problem for him.
Sha Tin is in HK, not Japan.

I thought the plan all along had been to bring Take over for the Belmont.....
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Old 05-11-2008, 01:10 PM
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Sha Tin is in HK, not Japan.

I thought the plan all along had been to bring Take over for the Belmont.....
You're right about HK, thanks. That's what I've always read the plan to be for Casino Drive. Take is one of the top jocks in the world, has ridden quality horses at tracks all over the world, and rides for this trainer regularly. It will be exciting to see him come here to ride. Who knows, maybe attendance will go up here, too <g>

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And the all weather track at Sha Tin is shorter, at 1560 meters.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:49 PM
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Take's a damn good rider, world class infact. I know he did a stint out West a few years ago to luke warm success and perhaps that is what most North American observers remember from him. But in Japan where racing is 1st class, and there are multiple big races, this guy is a big race rider. Sure he gets the mounts but he converts a vast majority of them.
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Considering Take's home track is Sha Tin, I don't see how our little Belmont track would be a problem for him.
Sha Tin might not be in Japan...

just guessing.

They need to bring Darren Beadman's ass over from Australia and let him guide the emmefffer home.
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:08 PM
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They need to bring Darren Beadman's ass over from Australia and let him guide the emmefffer home.
... but the Vivas would miss him!

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By all accounts, he's pretty excited about Belmont.....

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Old 05-12-2008, 03:33 PM
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Sha Tin might not be in Japan...

just guessing.

They need to bring Darren Beadman's ass over from Australia and let him guide the emmefffer home.
Seriously Darren Beadman is one of the best riders in the world, anyone who observes him for any amount of time I'm confident would come to the same conclusion. I doubt he's going anywhere, he even turned down Godolphin.

Additionally, I would also include Douglas Whyte in the same catagory. He's hardly a household name over here.
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:36 PM
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Additionally, I would also include Douglas Whyte in the same catagory. He's hardly a household name over here.
He's amazing.
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:47 PM
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Sha Tin might not be in Japan...

just guessing.

They need to bring Darren Beadman's ass over from Australia and let him guide the emmefffer home.
Good guess.

Hey, I like Beadman!
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I would say to whoever is riding, "Get as good of a trip in the Belmont as you did in the Peter Pan."
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Rumor from Japanese friends is that Take is now off.....
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Rumor from Japanese friends is that Take is now off.....
The ride on Vodka the other day wasn't much. I'd go with Dutrow's "main man." If he got Bird Droppings to look good, then why go anywhere else? Yea, I'd love to see Prado take this from Dutrow. All this time, he has been his main jock. Now, when he had a T.C. candidate he gives it to the mouthy Cajun. Don't forget he already cost Prado a B.C. Classic Winner (I'm sure he didn't fight the owners that hard on that one, either.) Whatever Prado is on in this race. Play it...Play it..Play it.
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