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Old 05-06-2008, 10:29 PM
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Im not a dem, but if I were I would be pretty disappointed with both candidates
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:42 PM
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Im not a dem, but if I were I would be pretty disappointed with both candidates
Honestly...when is anyone ever "happy" with a candidate.

And after the dust settles, I'm still good w/ Barack
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:01 PM
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Clinton's dont give up.
She is a competitor just like her husband.

Indiana now up for grabs.
Delayed vote. She wont give up.
I wish she would.
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:10 AM
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well, it sure looks like shes on the verge quitting now. yes she won indiana, but the delagates will be almost an even split. she got hammered in north carolina by over 200,000. like the post said shes toast. her speech even hinted as much. i'm not even a democrat, i stay independant, well here in ny its more like undeclared. theres no way i want this mccain in there though
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:07 PM
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Honestly...when is anyone ever "happy" with a candidate.

And after the dust settles, I'm still good w/ Barack
not me, I grown to really dislike him and his simplistic rhetoric and condescending view of working people, his bitter/angry wife, his bitter/angry pastor, his corrupt associates, his academic buddies who were former domestic terrorists, etc, etc.

on the other hand, I've grown some respect for Hillary after I realized its really her husband that I couldn't stand.

McCain? not much to say. on par with Hillary imo.

it was a bad night for Clinton, not what she needed.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:09 PM
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not me, I grown to really dislike him and his simplistic rhetoric and condescending view of working people, his bitter/angry wife, his bitter/angry pastor, his corrupt associates, his academic buddies who were former domestic terrorists, etc, etc.

on the other hand, I've grown some respect for Hillary after I realized its really her husband that I couldn't stand.

McCain? not much to say. on par with Hillary imo.

it was a bad night for Clinton, not what she needed.
Obama's supposed baggage ( and I'm not going to dissect the above point by point) is new and seems "fresher" and more relevant because he was such an unknown on a national scale a year ago. Come on..what politician/President doesn't/didn't have many of the above or just different issues?
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Old 05-07-2008, 02:21 PM
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Obama's supposed baggage ( and I'm not going to dissect the above point by point) is new and seems "fresher" and more relevant because he was such an unknown on a national scale a year ago. Come on..what politician/President doesn't/didn't have many of the above or just different issues?
I can't think of ANY other politician that had those issues. Come on! he attends a church whose hero is a racist and hates america. who he only disavows now that it appears to be the politically expedient thing to do. we find out yesterday Oprah got the hell out of that church years ago because she felt it was out of the mainstream. to me he is way off the charts compared to most other candidates. if thats what fresh is, no thanks I'll stick with stale.

like I said, going into this election Clinton was my least favorite candidate, but now I'd take her in a second over this guy.
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Old 05-07-2008, 02:23 PM
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Where is Ross Perot when we need him the most?
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Old 05-07-2008, 02:24 PM
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He predicted the great sucking sound.


No one listened.
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Old 05-07-2008, 02:27 PM
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I can't think of ANY other politician that had those issues. Come on! he attends a church whose hero is a racist and hates america. who he only disavows now that it appears to be the politically expedient thing to do. we find out yesterday Oprah got the hell out of that church years ago because she felt it was out of the mainstream. to me he is way off the charts compared to most other candidates. if thats what fresh is, no thanks I'll stick with stale.

like I said, going into this election Clinton was my least favorite candidate, but now I'd take her in a second over this guy.
How is Obama the racist when the Hillary camp is the one that keeps citing leads in white voters as proof that Obama can't win over the blue collar workers? What the hell definition of blue collar worker says they have to be white? Black people can't do manual labor and earn an hourly wage? I'd guess a pretty high percentage of the African-American population is now working in blue collar jobs. Probably comparable to the percentage of the white population in blue collar jobs.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:37 PM
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How is Obama the racist when the Hillary camp is the one that keeps citing leads in white voters as proof that Obama can't win over the blue collar workers? What the hell definition of blue collar worker says they have to be white? Black people can't do manual labor and earn an hourly wage? I'd guess a pretty high percentage of the African-American population is now working in blue collar jobs. Probably comparable to the percentage of the white population in blue collar jobs.
sorry you misunderstood, i didn't say Obama was a rascist. I'm only saying that he used poor judgement by so closely aligning with one for all those years, calling him a friend, mentor, etc. In Obama's great racism speech of a few months ago he said he could never disavow the rev. then when the heat is turned up he disavows him. He also said he never heard any of the objectionable material when he was in church. right.
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Old 05-07-2008, 02:31 PM
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I can't think of ANY other politician that had those issues. Come on! he attends a church whose hero is a racist and hates america. who he only disavows now that it appears to be the politically expedient thing to do. we find out yesterday Oprah got the hell out of that church years ago because she felt it was out of the mainstream. to me he is way off the charts compared to most other candidates. if thats what fresh is, no thanks I'll stick with stale.

like I said, going into this election Clinton was my least favorite candidate, but now I'd take her in a second over this guy.
As opposed to McCain being proud of and soliciting an endorsement from this nut job?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...r_n_89189.html
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:27 PM
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As opposed to McCain being proud of and soliciting an endorsement from this nut job?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...r_n_89189.html
not quite the same Bob, but don't feel much like saying anything else about it.
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