2008 Kentucky Derby predictions

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

1 Tale of Ekati
2 Cool Coal Man
3 Big Brown
4 Pyro/Colonel John

20. Denis of Cork


I could be wrong on my top picks, but that plug Denis of Cork will not crack the top 10. I'm amazed at how many people on here are picking this horse and NOT picking Big Brown. He had one more race and he's only posted one decent Beyer off of a god damn dream trip. Not to mention his trainer is nothing more than a glorified groom.

Good luck wasting your money on him.

Coach,
Looks like you and I are the only ones to list Tale of Ekati...and first at that. I'm still the only one bombing on Z Humor I guess. I love Col John but the angles worry me...still he might be my top pick by post time.

[Split Rock]

1st: #4 COURT VISION
2nd: #8 VISIONAIRRE
3rd: #16 DENIS OF CORK
4th: #6 Z FORTUNE
5th: #9 PYRO
...
14th: #20 BIG BROWN

[Trump99]

Colonel John

Monba Denis of Cork Court Vision

[westcoastinvader]

Just so I'm not noted as a redboarder on Saturday evening, I'll share that I'm planning to put Anak Nakal in my combo's, though I haven't determined exactly how yet.

I don't think I've seen him mentioned here yet.

Obviously it's a selection based on good racing luck over bad racing luck, but he's won a Grade II stakes over this surface before, and looked to be improving in his last race. He's come out of the outside of the gate his last three starts, and I'm banking on Bejarano being able to get him in pretty good position out of the 3 hole here. Also banking on Bejarano getting more out of him than his last couple riders.

[Port Conway Lane]

Big Brown
Pyro
Colonel John
Gayego

Chalk rules

[justindew]

Gayego
Monba
Visionaire

[Stall Mucker]

Pyro
Adriano
Denis of Cork
Court Vision
Eight Belles/Colonel John

I'd like to see the filly hit the board. Colonel John is un-proven on dirt. His work at CD might have been over the top.

[randallscott35]

As I go through 70 posts in this thread so far I see no one with Cowboy Cal in their Top 4...I've liked this horse for a couple of weeks and think he can we win the race.

If you look at his pattern it is tremendous coming back to his 2 yr old top on the turf. Mind you in that same race at Laurel he ran a 3 on the turf. Barbaro in that same race ran awesome and got a 4. He just matched that 3 in the Blue Grass and ran a great race every step of the way. I don't think he is a need the lead type like everyone else. He has inherited the lead in a few of his races and hasn't given me the look on a rank front runner at all. His top race as a two year old he wasn't in the first flight of horses....A Giants Causeway out of a Seeking the Gold Mare can't dirt?....I take the works in the weeks leading up with a grain of salt. Important sure but I never want to be talked on or off simply from a work when a horse has a history....That being said, if you could give me one horse based on a work from the past 2 weeks it is Cowboy Cal. Easily the best work I saw...but I know, I know, it was on the Poly....True enough.

1. Cowboy Cal
2. Eight Belles
3. Pyro
4. Big Brown

[Cajungator26]

Holy cow ... a Randall sighting.

[King Glorious]

1. Big Brown
2. Colonel John
3. Eight Belles
4. Court Vision

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

As I go through 70 posts in this thread so far I see no one with Cowboy Cal in their Top 4...I've liked this horse for a couple of weeks and think he can we win the race.

If you look at his pattern it is tremendous coming back to his 2 yr old top on the turf. Mind you in that same race at Laurel he ran a 3 on the turf. Barbaro in that same race ran awesome and got a 4. He just matched that 3 in the Blue Grass and ran a great race every step of the way. I don't think he is a need the lead type like everyone else. He has inherited the lead in a few of his races and hasn't given me the look on a rank front runner at all. His top race as a two year old he wasn't in the first flight of horses....A Giants Causeway out of a Seeking the Gold Mare can't dirt?....I take the works in the weeks leading up with a grain of salt. Important sure but I never want to be talked on or off simply from a work when a horse has a history....That being said, if you could give me one horse based on a work from the past 2 weeks it is Cowboy Cal. Easily the best work I saw...but I know, I know, it was on the Poly....True enough.

1. Cowboy Cal
2. Eight Belles
3. Pyro
4. Big Brown

I hope you're right

I still think he's going to get one of the very best trips in the whole race, it'll just be whether or not he's good enough. We'll see.

[Storm Cadet]

1. Pyro
2. Big Brown
3. Tale of Ekati
4. Col John