Peppers Pride goes for 12 in a row!

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't know why anyone would freak out about this-it's a record. not every record is held by the best a sport has ever seen.
i doubt anyone thinks najran is as good as dr fager just because he got the same time at a mile.

Obviously nobody should "freak out" about it, but I don't get how people could actually cheer for this horse to win at this point.
I don't really care very much about the topic at all, but I know that I would rather have horses like Cigar and especially Citation hold a record than somebody like this.

[Danzig]

if she breaks the record, it takes nothing away from them-nor does it elevate her. there are plenty of lesser horses who hold these records.
i cheer anything that draws real interest. another horse just last week had a chance at tying-did you see the amount of people who went to that small track to see him run?

[cowgirlintexas]

Originally Posted by Danzig

if she breaks the record, it takes nothing away from them-nor does it elevate her. there are plenty of lesser horses who hold these records.
i cheer anything that draws real interest. another horse just last week had a chance at tying-did you see the amount of people who went to that small track to see him run?

What horse was that Zig?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

What horse was that Zig?

i can't remember his name!! it's driving me nuts. i think the name had 2/3 parts to it, and started with a c. if that helps.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i can't remember his name!! it's driving me nuts. i think the name had 2/3 parts to it, and started with a c. if that helps.

Are you talking about Got Country Grip, the paint?

If so, he was going for his 17th strait, (which would break the record) and was beaten by a short neck. Remington was packed.
http://www.drf.com/news/article/93778.html

I agree with you, Peppers Pride run is fun and in no way diminishes Cigar or Citations record or elevates hers.
Her owner and trainer just seem to be nice guys that are having fun and in no way compare her to Cigar or Citation and don't plan on taking her out of New Mexico. Seems to me they have no grandiose illusions and almost feel uncomfortable when she is compared to Cigar or Citation.
It was sad for all involved that the 2nd place horse Bossy Bush brokedown.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by FGFan

Are you talking about Got Country Grip, the paint?

If so, he was going for his 17th strait, (which would break the record) and was beaten by a short neck. Remington was packed.
http://www.drf.com/news/article/93778.html

I agree with you, Peppers Pride run is fun and in no way diminishes Cigar or Citations record or elevates hers.
Her owner and trainer just seem to be nice guys that are having fun and in no way compare her to Cigar or Citation and don't plan on taking her out of New Mexico. Seems to me they have no grandiose illusions and almost feel uncomfortable when she is compared to Cigar or Citation.
It was sad for all involved that the 2nd place horse Bossy Bush brokedown.

yeah, that's him. i even went to remingtons site, as i thought it happened there. but i had to go to work, so i quit looking. i saw the link posted on equidaily the other day about the huge crowd they had gotten. we need more stuff like that, not less, and certainly no one at remington cared that it wasn't an 'a' list horse running for the record. no 'a' lister hangs around long enough for all that any more.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

if she breaks the record, it takes nothing away from them-nor does it elevate her. there are plenty of lesser horses who hold these records.
i cheer anything that draws real interest. another horse just last week had a chance at tying-did you see the amount of people who went to that small track to see him run?

You'll have to explain that one to me.
How in the world does it not "elevate" her? If she wins 20 in a row before losing, any future horse that comes along with a big win streak will be said to be shooting for "Pepper's Pride's redord." It absolutely elevates her from a horse nobody would even think to remember to somebody that will be brought up every once in awhile until the record falls.
In my opinion.....that's unfortunate.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

You'll have to explain that one to me.
How in the world does it not "elevate" her? If she wins 20 in a row before losing, any future horse that comes along with a big win streak will be said to be shooting for "Pepper's Pride's redord." It absolutely elevates her from a horse nobody would even think to remember to somebody that will be brought up every once in awhile until the record falls.
In my opinion.....that's unfortunate.

when she's done and gone, no one will care except those close to her. if a horse goes after the record later, so what. so it's peppers prides record, just like it's najran listed next to dr fager. does anyone think that makes najran as good as dr fager?
i don't see the big deal at all, and i don't understand why anyone makes it out to be one. like they say, records are made to be broken. so she'll be the barry bonds of horse racing.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

when she's done and gone, no one will care except those close to her. if a horse goes after the record later, so what. so it's peppers prides record, just like it's najran listed next to dr fager. does anyone think that makes najran as good as dr fager?
i don't see the big deal at all, and i don't understand why anyone makes it out to be one. like they say, records are made to be broken. so she'll be the barry bonds of horse racing.

See what I mean? This comparison is obviously a huge inflation of her talent. Barry Bonds was - even before the roids - a Hall of Fame type talent. She obviously is not, and yet you are comparing the two.
As for your Dr. Fager example, if she breaks the record, her name won't be listed "next to" Citation, Cigar, etc. She'll be the sole recordholder. And furthermore, yeah, I also wish Dr. Fager was still the sole record holder and didn't have to share anything with an inferior animal.
As a fan of the sport, I like it when deserving horses hold the major records rather than horses that took advantage of a souped up track, or connections that took advantage of ridiculously easy spots.
As I said earlier in this thread, I certainly can't blame her connections, but there is no way I would ever cheer for her to break the record either.
I hope she gets beat.

[cowgirlintexas]

Apples to Oranges... Love that she has'nt been beat.. However I doubt anyone will ever call her a "champion" in the same breath as "Cigar or Citation". There will always be an astrick* because she never ventured out of her comfort zone of New Mexico. Personally, I think they ought to enter her in a nice stake race somewhere just to see what she is made of against some better sticks. Just my opinion and still on the first cup of java..so just saying

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

Apples to Oranges... Love that she has'nt been beat.. However I doubt anyone will ever call her a "champion" in the same breath as "Cigar or Citation". There will always be an astrick* because she never ventured out of her comfort zone of New Mexico. Personally, I think they ought to enter her in a nice stake race somewhere just to see what she is made of against some better sticks. Just my opinion and still on the first cup of java..so just saying

she runs in stakes now, and no, no one will call her champ or great. consistent on the other hand, absolutely.

[Danzig]

i think you're taking this WAY too seriously. the sun will rise tomorrow, if she wins or loses next out. 'better' horses than her will never have an opportunity to break the record, as they don't even manage 17 starts any more.
have you ever looked at the world records for various distances? how many are household names? how many can you name without looking them up?

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think you're taking this WAY too seriously. the sun will rise tomorrow, if she wins or loses next out. 'better' horses than her will never have an opportunity to break the record, as they don't even manage 17 starts any more.
have you ever looked at the world records for various distances? how many are household names? how many can you name without looking them up?

What? I'm not taking it seriously at all. I just want her to lose. If she doesn't....oh well. But if I had my preference, I hope she gets beat. What in the world makes you think I am taking this seriously?
And obviously I am well aware that many other crappy horses have records. So what? Does that mean I have to like it?
All I am saying is that I would RATHER have this record belong to good horses than a crappy one. That's it. Why is that so hard to understand?