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Old 04-13-2008, 12:34 PM
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The Arkansas Derby's figure isn't going to get anyone's heart racing either... Likely 95-96 or so.

And Mike, adjust your thinking away from the masses... The Wood Memorial wasn't 'slow'.


Just because the track was glib means the Wood wasn't slow? I understand that you have to hack a few seconds off of the day's times, but even on a "normal" track, I don't think they would've gone faster than 1:50 and change..
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:10 PM
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Just because the track was glib means the Wood wasn't slow? I understand that you have to hack a few seconds off of the day's times, but even on a "normal" track, I don't think they would've gone faster than 1:50 and change..
Pace, Joe.. The pace. Just because the two top horses that were tons better than the rest came home 'slow', doesn't mean the race was slow...
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Pace, Joe.. The pace. Just because the two top horses that were tons better than the rest came home 'slow', doesn't mean the race was slow...
Do you really think that the pace on Derby Day will be any better?
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Do you really think that the pace on Derby Day will be any better?
I actually think it will be more reasonable.
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I actually think it will be more reasonable.
^^^ Ditto..
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I actually think it will be more reasonable.
Is ET Baird still riding that Illinois horse and is Bob Black Jack still wearing blinkers? Either of those are going to be bad news for the pace horses, both will be disaster.
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I actually think it will be more reasonable.
Craig, I know you are busy with a lot of other stuff going on, but wondering about the conjecture about the pace of the Derby. If it is not too much trouble, I would be interested in seeing your pace figures for the last few
(10) Derbies to see how they compare with this years prep races and whether they support or refute Steve and your thoughts about the Wood.

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I don't have time to look them up right now, but if you go to my site and check the Breeder's Cup Archives, I imagine at least one Derby runner is in there most years.
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OK, I looked. Note for the pace call at 10f, I use 6f, not the mile most people use.

2007-127, 106
2006-125, 111
2005-128, 100
2004-114, 105
2003-121, 107
2002-112, 113
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