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Old 04-08-2008, 10:01 AM
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So lets revisit. Obviously we know the outcome and what happened, but should I have hedged. Reason I ask is that yesterday I was very confident, I liked my position and honestly, I went against what I normally do.

When I am at the track, and lets say I played a $10 P3 and I am alive to two horses in the final leg, both favorites, and I am collecting $800 and $1000 on those two live horses, I have $60 invested into the ticket. I will take another $40 or $90 and spread it in the race that will improve my odds of making money, say be positive at least $100.

I guess it really depends on where you are at in a multitude of situations(financially, mentally), but I could have gotten +110 last night, with $200 invested, and invested another $500, and been guaranteed either $1600 (900 profit) or $1050(350 profit)

Just the other side of the coin, but looking at these numbers, I still think I did the right thing....
If you could have got +120 it would have been worth the hedge since you'd have been hedging and getting value on Kansas. At +105 or +110 though, I think you did the right thing as painful as it turned out.
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:06 AM
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You dont hedge a bet like that. You stand to win 1600 on a 200 dollar bet. The 200 isnt going to change your lifestyle, nor is the 1600. Like Coach Pants said, just let the bitch ride. If you lose you lose, youll lose a lot more before you die, and youll probably win a lot more. I never hedge, win like a man, and bitch when you lose, thats they way to do it.
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:09 AM
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I never hedge, win like a man, and bitch when you lose, thats they way to do it.
I like this philosophy....This will be my FIRST EVER signature in message board history
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:13 AM
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Its the only way to go Scavs

Phil. I phoned in a bet for the 8th in New York on Sunday and got it screwed up. The guy put the bet in for the 9th. In any event I bet an exacta multiple, multiple, times 4w the 1-5. Ive never had a break like that my entire life. Exacta returned 234 for a buck! Haha
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:21 AM
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Its the only way to go Scavs

Phil. I phoned in a bet for the 8th in New York on Sunday and got it screwed up. The guy put the bet in for the 9th. In any event I bet an exacta multiple, multiple, times 4w the 1-5. Ive never had a break like that my entire life. Exacta returned 234 for a buck! Haha
SICK!!! that was a huge exacta, and even better, the 4 in the 8th didn't do sh*t...

exacta in last at kee on sat was painful. wheeled the 2 over a few for $10 a spot. watching the carter, which i was live in the p4 to spring at last (who didn't run a step), forgot about the bet. turn to the other tv, he's got a 2 length lead at the 1/16th pole, gets nailed in the last jump by one of the ones i used, he was 17-1 and the 9 was 8-1. exacta pays $479 for $2, would have paid $700 for $2 the other way. all the f*ckin stupid UK money on weekends there
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:40 AM
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The whole should have fouled him thing is redboarding. If they foul him in the act and he hits 3 FT's they are idiots. If they foul him hard and the ref calls intentional foul 2 shots and the ball then they are idiots. If they foul and he hits the 3 and gets a FT on top of it, they are idiots. If you want to say foul in the backcourt, fine but then but you are leaving time on the clock, they make 2 to go down 1 and foul you again with some time still on the clock. You can overanalyze this to death but the reason they lost was they choked from the line. Period. If they shoot 50% from the line in the second half all that other stuff doesnt matter. All the crap about fouls, timeouts, etc are just hindsight. If one of their 2 best players doesnt choke from the line they win. That is a fact, all the other stuff is hypothetical. Neither Calapari or Self distinguished themselves from an x's and o's standpoint but in the end they did not execute. That is on the players.
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:59 AM
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The whole should have fouled him thing is redboarding. If they foul him in the act and he hits 3 FT's they are idiots. If they foul him hard and the ref calls intentional foul 2 shots and the ball then they are idiots. If they foul and he hits the 3 and gets a FT on top of it, they are idiots. If you want to say foul in the backcourt, fine but then but you are leaving time on the clock, they make 2 to go down 1 and foul you again with some time still on the clock. You can overanalyze this to death but the reason they lost was they choked from the line. Period. If they shoot 50% from the line in the second half all that other stuff doesnt matter. All the crap about fouls, timeouts, etc are just hindsight. If one of their 2 best players doesnt choke from the line they win. That is a fact, all the other stuff is hypothetical. Neither Calapari or Self distinguished themselves from an x's and o's standpoint but in the end they did not execute. That is on the players.
Talk about killing our bitch session....
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:41 AM
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The whole should have fouled him thing is redboarding. If they foul him in the act and he hits 3 FT's they are idiots. If they foul him hard and the ref calls intentional foul 2 shots and the ball then they are idiots. If they foul and he hits the 3 and gets a FT on top of it, they are idiots. If you want to say foul in the backcourt, fine but then but you are leaving time on the clock, they make 2 to go down 1 and foul you again with some time still on the clock. You can overanalyze this to death but the reason they lost was they choked from the line. Period. If they shoot 50% from the line in the second half all that other stuff doesnt matter. All the crap about fouls, timeouts, etc are just hindsight. If one of their 2 best players doesnt choke from the line they win. That is a fact, all the other stuff is hypothetical. Neither Calapari or Self distinguished themselves from an x's and o's standpoint but in the end they did not execute. That is on the players.
Well said.
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