Memphis

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Neglected to look at it that way, but, your right. Legs buckle and arms dont fully extend when the game is on the line... I'm sure that they couldnt have fit a greased beebe in his mudslinger at the end there, it was so clenched..There's a reason that M Jordan wanted the ball every time in when teh game was on the line, he had ice in his veins...Kid has alley-gator blood (said in my best teddy KGB voice)

No MJ's tonight

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Dorsey. most of his fouls are dumb. He would not have been on the court much anyway since he makes Shaq look like Rick Barry at the line. He is 2/5 to win the NBDL slam dunk contest if they ever actually have one.

I agree with that. Those NBDL games are a joke. I went to one once and thought I was watching a game at the local YMCA.

[The Bid]

I just think he layed an egg. Up by 10 with 2 minutes on the clock and cant hold a lead. Turn over the inbounds, never call the TO, its insane. After watching all the postgame Im glad Kansas won. I lost a thousand on Memphis, but I would rather lose that thousand than have Memphis win after hearing Calidickhead in the press conference. He quit coaching, the kids quit playing, and ultimately they got what they deserved. The only one who didnt get what they deserve was me!

Had I gotten past that game of my parlay I would have had to endure the Indians giving up a 2 run lead in the 9th while 58 year old Garrett Anderson hits a walkoff grand salami. What did I do for god to hate me

I can only chalk it up to 1 thing, JCS11204s moosh job.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by The Bid

I just think he layed an egg. Up by 10 with 2 minutes on the clock and cant hold a lead. Turn over the inbounds, never call the TO, its insane. After watching all the postgame Im glad Kansas won. I lost a thousand on Memphis, but I would rather lose that thousand than have Memphis win after hearing Calidickhead in the press conference. He quit coaching, the kids quit playing, and ultimately they got what they deserved. The only one who didnt get what they deserve was me!

Had I gotten past that game of my parlay I would have had to endure the Indians giving up a 2 run lead in the 9th while 58 year old Garrett Anderson hits a walkoff grand salami. What did I do for god to hate me

I can only chalk it up to 1 thing, JCS11204s moosh job.

I don't think you can use what he said in the press conference against him. They choked, plain and simple. It was just a freak thing that happens 3 times out of a 100. Memphis had about 7 opportunities to ice the game and they just couldn't finish them off.

I don't buy for one second that Derrick Rose was trying to foul him, if he was trying to foul, he could have just armbarred the **** out of him and tried to break his forearm going for the ball.

Calapari did get outcoached because they haven't done that screen **** for Rose all tourney, and then all of a sudden they are doing that. It just looks like he tinkered too much instead of just 'letting them play' like he has said all tourney.

Keep in mind also that you had a bunch of thugs that weren't mentally strong trying to play with fouls. Smart players can play with fouls, but street players can't. Look at what CDR does after he misses those FTs, right there a jerkoff ref could have ended the game with a T, but luckily they didn't, but just dumb stuff.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by The Bid

I just think he layed an egg. Up by 10 with 2 minutes on the clock and cant hold a lead. Turn over the inbounds, never call the TO, its insane. After watching all the postgame Im glad Kansas won. I lost a thousand on Memphis, but I would rather lose that thousand than have Memphis win after hearing Calidickhead in the press conference. He quit coaching, the kids quit playing, and ultimately they got what they deserved. The only one who didnt get what they deserve was me!

Had I gotten past that game of my parlay I would have had to endure the Indians giving up a 2 run lead in the 9th while 58 year old Garrett Anderson hits a walkoff grand salami. What did I do for god to hate me
I can only chalk it up to 1 thing, JCS11204s moosh job.

lol..you posted this Bid:

Tomorrow at noon they will sweep the disgraceful White Sox out of town. How long can they keep Guillen

jk...sorry for your misery last night

but thank you for the 5 in a row the Sox have won since your post

[The Bid]

Bob,

When the Indians left town it got very cold in Cleveland, and not the weather. Thats my second reverse parlay in a row.

Scav,

Any coach fouls in that situation when they came down and hit that 3. Those kids werent prepared because he didnt prepare them.

I loved what Bobby Knight said about calling a timeout. Regardless of how many times youve been over something in practice if it comes down like that you immediately call a timeout to set your kids. Go over it with each kid and tell them their assignment and what they are to do. You would think these morons have never played in an organized game before with the mistakes they made the last 2 minuets. It lies on Calapari's shoulders, he was horrible when they needed him. Yeah his kids didnt hit freethrows, he didnt have them prepared, he was shrugging off missing freethrows in his last press conference. Foul, he never tried to foul, he never told those kids that. He just got schooled, he choked, and so did his kids.

When PG1985 got on Calapari should have forfeited

[Scav]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Bob,

When the Indians left town it got very cold in Cleveland, and not the weather. Thats my second reverse parlay in a row.

Scav,

Any coach fouls in that situation when they came down and hit that 3. Those kids werent prepared because he didnt prepare them.

I loved what Bobby Knight said about calling a timeout. Regardless of how many times youve been over something in practice if it comes down like that you immediately call a timeout to set your kids. Go over it with each kid and tell them their assignment and what they are to do. You would think these morons have never played in an organized game before with the mistakes they made the last 2 minuets. It lies on Calapari's shoulders, he was horrible when they needed him. Yeah his kids didnt hit freethrows, he didnt have them prepared, he was shrugging off missing freethrows in his last press conference. Foul, he never tried to foul, he never told those kids that. He just got schooled, he choked, and so did his kids.

When PG1985 got on Calapari should have forfeited

I agree 100%, he cost them the game as much as missing the FT's and such, all around choke job. And you know what, if he is interviewed tomorrow or Friday, I would like to think that he would admit that.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Scav

I agree 100%, he cost them the game as much as missing the FT's and such, all around choke job. And you know what, if he is interviewed tomorrow or Friday, I would like to think that he would admit that.

It's never going to happen, Scav. He's an ego-maniac. Laying the the game on "the lords will"; love what Jay Bilas said, 'not calling a TO had nothing to do with the lords will'. HAHA

[Scav]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

It's never going to happen, Scav. He's an ego-maniac. Laying the the game on "the lords will"; love what Jay Bilas said, 'not calling a TO had nothing to do with the lords will'. HAHA

I really like Jay Bilas as a commentator, the guy knows his stuff and isn't afraid to say something that is out of the norm.

I think we all have been around many Calapari's in our lifes, and the fact is, that people like this, it tears them up inside because they know they screwed up. Trust me, he knows he lost that game yesterday, just was hoping that his kids would bail him out.

[Scav]

So lets revisit. Obviously we know the outcome and what happened, but should I have hedged. Reason I ask is that yesterday I was very confident, I liked my position and honestly, I went against what I normally do.

When I am at the track, and lets say I played a $10 P3 and I am alive to two horses in the final leg, both favorites, and I am collecting $800 and $1000 on those two live horses, I have $60 invested into the ticket. I will take another $40 or $90 and spread it in the race that will improve my odds of making money, say be positive at least $100.

I guess it really depends on where you are at in a multitude of situations(financially, mentally), but I could have gotten +110 last night, with $200 invested, and invested another $500, and been guaranteed either $1600 (900 profit) or $1050(350 profit)

Just the other side of the coin, but looking at these numbers, I still think I did the right thing....

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Scav

So lets revisit. Obviously we know the outcome and what happened, but should I have hedged. Reason I ask is that yesterday I was very confident, I liked my position and honestly, I went against what I normally do.

When I am at the track, and lets say I played a $10 P3 and I am alive to two horses in the final leg, both favorites, and I am collecting $800 and $1000 on those two live horses, I have $60 invested into the ticket. I will take another $40 or $90 and spread it in the race that will improve my odds of making money, say be positive at least $100.

I guess it really depends on where you are at in a multitude of situations(financially, mentally), but I could have gotten +110 last night, with $200 invested, and invested another $500, and been guaranteed either $1600 (900 profit) or $1050(350 profit)

Just the other side of the coin, but looking at these numbers, I still think I did the right thing....

If you could have got +120 it would have been worth the hedge since you'd have been hedging and getting value on Kansas. At +105 or +110 though, I think you did the right thing as painful as it turned out.

[The Bid]

You dont hedge a bet like that. You stand to win 1600 on a 200 dollar bet. The 200 isnt going to change your lifestyle, nor is the 1600. Like Coach Pants said, just let the bitch ride. If you lose you lose, youll lose a lot more before you die, and youll probably win a lot more. I never hedge, win like a man, and bitch when you lose, thats they way to do it.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Scav

So lets revisit. Obviously we know the outcome and what happened, but should I have hedged. Reason I ask is that yesterday I was very confident, I liked my position and honestly, I went against what I normally do.

When I am at the track, and lets say I played a $10 P3 and I am alive to two horses in the final leg, both favorites, and I am collecting $800 and $1000 on those two live horses, I have $60 invested into the ticket. I will take another $40 or $90 and spread it in the race that will improve my odds of making money, say be positive at least $100.

I guess it really depends on where you are at in a multitude of situations(financially, mentally), but I could have gotten +110 last night, with $200 invested, and invested another $500, and been guaranteed either $1600 (900 profit) or $1050(350 profit)

Just the other side of the coin, but looking at these numbers, I still think I did the right thing....

I know how you feel dude. Was in the same situation Sunday at Aqueduct. Played a $2 pick 3 singling the 5 in the 8th, felt like the 7th was wide open and anybody could win so hit the all button, and used 5 of 8 in the last. Total cost = $60. The 7th race complies, with a $31 winner, the single wins at 5/2, and I'm left with willpays of $500-$4,000. The three uncovered horses were 5-1, 20-1, and 20-1. I said to Holly "the right thing to do would be bet $80 on the 5-1, and $25 each on the 20-1's but i'm stupid so i won't"... of course, the 20-1's run 1-2 and I missed a nice score on the P3 and felt like a bigger idiot for not hedging a bit, even though i felt the race was wide open. But, like Bid said... let the b*tch ride. None of these scores were big enough to change your life in any way, and you can wake up today and not be too upset with yourself.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by The Bid

I never hedge, win like a man, and bitch when you lose, thats they way to do it.

I like this philosophy....This will be my FIRST EVER signature in message board history

[The Bid]

Its the only way to go Scavs

Phil. I phoned in a bet for the 8th in New York on Sunday and got it screwed up. The guy put the bet in for the 9th. In any event I bet an exacta multiple, multiple, times 4w the 1-5. Ive never had a break like that my entire life. Exacta returned 234 for a buck! Haha

[philcski]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Its the only way to go Scavs

Phil. I phoned in a bet for the 8th in New York on Sunday and got it screwed up. The guy put the bet in for the 9th. In any event I bet an exacta multiple, multiple, times 4w the 1-5. Ive never had a break like that my entire life. Exacta returned 234 for a buck! Haha

SICK!!! that was a huge exacta, and even better, the 4 in the 8th didn't do sh*t...

exacta in last at kee on sat was painful. wheeled the 2 over a few for $10 a spot. watching the carter, which i was live in the p4 to spring at last (who didn't run a step), forgot about the bet. turn to the other tv, he's got a 2 length lead at the 1/16th pole, gets nailed in the last jump by one of the ones i used, he was 17-1 and the 9 was 8-1. exacta pays $479 for $2, would have paid $700 for $2 the other way. all the f*ckin stupid UK money on weekends there

[Cannon Shell]

The whole should have fouled him thing is redboarding. If they foul him in the act and he hits 3 FT's they are idiots. If they foul him hard and the ref calls intentional foul 2 shots and the ball then they are idiots. If they foul and he hits the 3 and gets a FT on top of it, they are idiots. If you want to say foul in the backcourt, fine but then but you are leaving time on the clock, they make 2 to go down 1 and foul you again with some time still on the clock. You can overanalyze this to death but the reason they lost was they choked from the line. Period. If they shoot 50% from the line in the second half all that other stuff doesnt matter. All the crap about fouls, timeouts, etc are just hindsight. If one of their 2 best players doesnt choke from the line they win. That is a fact, all the other stuff is hypothetical. Neither Calapari or Self distinguished themselves from an x's and o's standpoint but in the end they did not execute. That is on the players.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Had I gotten past that game of my parlay I would have had to endure the Indians giving up a 2 run lead in the 9th while 58 year old Garrett Anderson hits a walkoff grand salami. What did I do for god to hate me

Joe must go. What is Wedge thinking by keeping this guy as a closer? Especially when he has more qualified guys?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The whole should have fouled him thing is redboarding. If they foul him in the act and he hits 3 FT's they are idiots. If they foul him hard and the ref calls intentional foul 2 shots and the ball then they are idiots. If they foul and he hits the 3 and gets a FT on top of it, they are idiots. If you want to say foul in the backcourt, fine but then but you are leaving time on the clock, they make 2 to go down 1 and foul you again with some time still on the clock. You can overanalyze this to death but the reason they lost was they choked from the line. Period. If they shoot 50% from the line in the second half all that other stuff doesnt matter. All the crap about fouls, timeouts, etc are just hindsight. If one of their 2 best players doesnt choke from the line they win. That is a fact, all the other stuff is hypothetical. Neither Calapari or Self distinguished themselves from an x's and o's standpoint but in the end they did not execute. That is on the players.

Talk about killing our bitch session....

[ninetoone]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The whole should have fouled him thing is redboarding. If they foul him in the act and he hits 3 FT's they are idiots. If they foul him hard and the ref calls intentional foul 2 shots and the ball then they are idiots. If they foul and he hits the 3 and gets a FT on top of it, they are idiots. If you want to say foul in the backcourt, fine but then but you are leaving time on the clock, they make 2 to go down 1 and foul you again with some time still on the clock. You can overanalyze this to death but the reason they lost was they choked from the line. Period. If they shoot 50% from the line in the second half all that other stuff doesnt matter. All the crap about fouls, timeouts, etc are just hindsight. If one of their 2 best players doesnt choke from the line they win. That is a fact, all the other stuff is hypothetical. Neither Calapari or Self distinguished themselves from an x's and o's standpoint but in the end they did not execute. That is on the players.

Well said.