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Old 03-29-2008, 08:47 PM
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How many years he staying at UCLA?
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Old 03-29-2008, 08:53 PM
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How many years he staying at UCLA?
maybe 1 more? He should leave if they think he is a lottery pick.
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Old 03-29-2008, 09:18 PM
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maybe 1 more? He should leave if they think he is a lottery pick.
Please dont tell me the Blind still have Jordan on
ATM rated Higher?
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Old 03-29-2008, 09:29 PM
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Please dont tell me the Blind still have Jordan on
ATM rated Higher?
He is 10th I think. He is 7 feet tall and a really good athlete. Kind of raw but may develop into a Tyson Chandler type.
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Old 03-29-2008, 09:36 PM
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He is 10th I think. He is 7 feet tall and a really good athlete. Kind of raw but may develop into a Tyson Chandler type.
KIND of?
He is sushi raw.
He has not been born yet raw.

Holy crap.
No hands.
No basketball sense.
No pivot moves, no offensive skills whatsoever.
I watched him multiple times this year.

Reclaimation, reclaimation.
He will be a true project.

Fransisco Elson is a better athlete
thatn Jordan and he is just flat out
a bad basketball player that happens to
be an athlete.

Is Mel Kuiper doing this rating also?
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Old 03-29-2008, 10:09 PM
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KIND of?
He is sushi raw.
He has not been born yet raw.

Holy crap.
No hands.
No basketball sense.
No pivot moves, no offensive skills whatsoever.
I watched him multiple times this year.

Reclaimation, reclaimation.
He will be a true project.

Fransisco Elson is a better athlete
thatn Jordan and he is just flat out
a bad basketball player that happens to
be an athlete.

Is Mel Kuiper doing this rating also?
He is 19 and 7 feet 260. He can run and jump. You can teach guys how to play basketball but there are very few with the physical tools that he has. I have no idea if he will work hard enough to become a good NBA player or just be a second stringer but the guy has the physical parts.
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Old 03-29-2008, 10:20 PM
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He is 19 and 7 feet 260. He can run and jump. You can teach guys how to play basketball but there are very few with the physical tools that he has. I have no idea if he will work hard enough to become a good NBA player or just be a second stringer but the guy has the physical parts.
Even if he does work hard I have my doubts.
He was absolutely awful. Its not like he just started
playing. He looks like some foreign kid that they saved
from being eaten who has never played.


But then again so
was Hakeem his freshman year at Houston.
But he had never played before.
And there was some basic instinct and
he moved his feet very well (soccer in Nigeria I think).

I think its money down the tube with Jordan if he comes
out this raw. He will totally lose confidence, even if he steps
on a developmental league court at this time.
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Old 03-30-2008, 10:21 AM
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maybe 1 more? He should leave if they think he is a lottery pick.
Doesn't UCLA already have daily pick up game filled with former stars that left early and flopped? Love needs to stay and increase his first round value after his 4th year and a degree.
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Old 03-30-2008, 11:40 AM
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Doesn't UCLA already have daily pick up game filled with former stars that left early and flopped? Love needs to stay and increase his first round value after his 4th year and a degree.
All schools have pick up games with ex-Iwannabeapros playing.

With Love I think you got a guy that is what you see is
what you get. Because he is not athletic, he does not
have a tremendous upside (such as a guy like Jordan at ATM
might have).

So staying... I dont know how much it helps him. I think the question
is this a weak year for Centers. I dont know how many foreign guys
are being looked at. If Hibert at Georgetown is considered the gold
standard (which I hope he is not), then Love would be a lottery pick. I really dont know what kind of "Center" year this is.

What is clear to me is that you dont find guys that
large with that kind of basketball skill level. He is smart
in so many ways on the court that a lot of what he does
lack, jumping, speed, he makes up for.

I can only speak my opinion for one pro team. Imo the
Spurs would take him in a heartbeat. As I stated earlier, he
is better than any "Center" they have now. The only question
would be if he could handle the very quick switching defense
one particular pro team requires. I also think he is better than
Splitter who will be with the Spurs most likely next year.

Beasely is obviously the first pick in the draft unless some team
has found a really good foreign player.
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Old 03-31-2008, 06:25 AM
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All schools have pick up games with ex-Iwannabeapros playing.

With Love I think you got a guy that is what you see is
what you get. Because he is not athletic, he does not
have a tremendous upside (such as a guy like Jordan at ATM
might have).

So staying... I dont know how much it helps him. I think the question
is this a weak year for Centers. I dont know how many foreign guys
are being looked at. If Hibert at Georgetown is considered the gold
standard (which I hope he is not), then Love would be a lottery pick. I really dont know what kind of "Center" year this is.

What is clear to me is that you dont find guys that
large with that kind of basketball skill level. He is smart
in so many ways on the court that a lot of what he does
lack, jumping, speed, he makes up for.

I can only speak my opinion for one pro team. Imo the
Spurs would take him in a heartbeat. As I stated earlier, he
is better than any "Center" they have now. The only question
would be if he could handle the very quick switching defense
one particular pro team requires. I also think he is better than
Splitter who will be with the Spurs most likely next year.

Beasely is obviously the first pick in the draft unless some team
has found a really good foreign player.
Love is not an NBA center. Hibbert is not highly coveted either.
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Old 03-31-2008, 06:59 PM
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Love is not an NBA center. Hibbert is not highly coveted either.
He is with Duncan the Power forward.
If Curt Thomas and F. Oberto are Centers
than tell me why Love is not?

Again the Center Power Forward thing is all messed up.

jeeps...

The Stanford twins leaving.

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Old 03-31-2008, 07:57 PM
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He is with Duncan the Power forward.
If Curt Thomas and F. Oberto are Centers
than tell me why Love is not?

Again the Center Power Forward thing is all messed up.

jeeps...

The Stanford twins leaving.
Oberto only gets away with it because he plays with Duncan. Kurt Thomas can only guard in the post. I dont think that Love will be effective with his back to the basket and the jury is out on if he can guard the post or on the perimeter. He can be a high post type center but the positions are really blurred based upon personel. Teams dont say we need a center, lets get so and so. They try to plug guys into needs for their team, like post defender, rebounder, perimeter defender, etc.. If Love gets drafted by Houston is he playing center? Or Denver? If Love can get in shape and improve his lateral movement and guard 4's in the NBA then he will be ok because he has good offensive skills for a big guy.

The Stanford Twins are career back ups
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Old 03-31-2008, 08:03 PM
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He is with Duncan the Power forward.
If Curt Thomas and F. Oberto are Centers
than tell me why Love is not?

Again the Center Power Forward thing is all messed up.

jeeps...

The Stanford twins leaving.

In more important related news...If Robin Lopez plays his cards right, he may not need the NBA's money. He is tapping Michelle Wie
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Old 03-31-2008, 10:43 AM
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After really watching him in the Big East tourney and then the big dance I can see why. Plays way too soft and never really appears like he is with it. Also has yet to figure out how to play without picking up senseless fouls.
He is just big
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Old 03-31-2008, 06:24 AM
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Doesn't UCLA already have daily pick up game filled with former stars that left early and flopped? Love needs to stay and increase his first round value after his 4th year and a degree.
Lottery picks get lottery money. Staying hasnt helped Hansboro move up. Who has stayed 4 years lately and has benefited?
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