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Old 03-28-2008, 01:40 PM
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I am trying to get away from P3's and you SUCK ME BACK IN...

I know...I haven't decided on how tomorrow is going to go yet.

This conversation is probably pointless given the fact that he will be 1/5 or 2/5 and in that case, I am obviously not playing him....
that was a general comment, honestly I don't see the race as playable. its not my kind of play. even if I think he's a sure thing which I really do, the odds will be just too low.

i do think some bombs could come out of the rest of the card, i've got a few i'm looking at.
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:44 PM
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that was a general comment, honestly I don't see the race as playable. its not my kind of play. even if I think he's a sure thing which I really do, the odds will be just too low.

i do think some bombs could come out of the rest of the card, i've got a few i'm looking at.
It's not my kind of play either, agreed on that. However, this race can be played in the same vein as War Pass losing to the Tagg horse. The best horse doesn't always run their race for whatever reason, if you want to take a shot that lighting will strike, the payoff may be worth it. Again I just don't like that method of betting, however it would be feasible as long as you know before going in that Curlin is the best horse, and you are betting that he has an off day, that is what you are betting on.
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:04 PM
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The horse has gone off low 3 times.Twice he got beat doing it,and once he won doing it.He lost at 4/5,and even money.He won at 4/5.I guess I just don't understand why you want him less than even money(when you could of had him at over 4-1.)Yes,he ran huge,but unless he is running in the slop again,then I think he could run 2nd or 3rd again.Other than that Grade 1 race,he hasn't been dominant in Grade 1 races.He has been very competitive in them,but he has only drawn off in one Grade 1 race. I guess most everyone thinks his real self is gunna be to now do what he did at the B.C. on a dry track.Maybe,but I don't know.I think his real self may still be to win or lose by a neck in big races.The Juvenile filly winner,and B.C. Sprint winner haven't looked as dominant as they did that day in the slop.
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:47 PM
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that was a general comment, honestly I don't see the race as playable. its not my kind of play. even if I think he's a sure thing which I really do, the odds will be just too low.

i do think some bombs could come out of the rest of the card, i've got a few i'm looking at.
I like Archipenko in the Duty Free at a price, Linngari also. I think Notional has a shot at running real big. Never thought I would say that. I also think the first three are fairly formful. But the Duty Free has a shot at a monster horse, and the race after I have given up on. In the 5th I will be boxing Notional, Archipenko, Creachadoir, and Linngari, and in the 6th I am boxing Sun Classique, Gravitas, Viva Pataca, and Doctor Dino. I might also use the far outside horse, Gower Song.
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:56 PM
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I like Archipenko in the Duty Free at a price, Linngari also. I think Notional has a shot at running real big. Never thought I would say that. I also think the first three are fairly formful. But the Duty Free has a shot at a monster horse, and the race after I have given up on. In the 5th I will be boxing Notional, Archipenko, Creachadoir, and Linngari, and in the 6th I am boxing Sun Classique, Gravitas, Viva Pataca, and Doctor Dino. I might also use the far outside horse, Gower Song.
I'm with you on Archipenko.
also give a look to the horse MMSC has been touting, Latency. last grass effort in Arg he carried 134 lbs and drew off by open lengths in a gr1 against 23 opponents. of course you do have to look past the nad al sheba dirt prep race, but maybe that was only for condition. not a strong chance I know, but the horse will be a huge price. that is a deep race.
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:58 PM
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For those interested, I posted my figures for the whole card as the Race of the Week on my site.

All foreign race figures are free Racing Post figures and converted to the Beyer scale using my own proprietary formula.
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:03 PM
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For those interested, I posted my figures for the whole card as the Race of the Week on my site.

All foreign race figures are free Racing Post figures and converted to the Beyer scale using my own proprietary formula.
thanks, thats really helpful.
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:57 PM
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For those interested, I posted my figures for the whole card as the Race of the Week on my site.

All foreign race figures are free Racing Post figures and converted to the Beyer scale using my own proprietary formula.
Very nice. Thanks
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Old 03-28-2008, 07:03 PM
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For those interested, I posted my figures for the whole card as the Race of the Week on my site.

All foreign race figures are free Racing Post figures and converted to the Beyer scale using my own proprietary formula.
Thanks CJ!
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Old 03-28-2008, 11:54 PM
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I realize I'm about to get my head handed to me for asking this question.... But is there anyone who feels we are already sending these people enough money as it is. Gas is over $3 a gallon. If the Sheiks get to buy our best horses for stud, could they lower the price of crude to less than $100 a barrel?

Signed, Conservative in the Ozarks.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:22 AM
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I realize I'm about to get my head handed to me for asking this question.... But is there anyone who feels we are already sending these people enough money as it is. Gas is over $3 a gallon. If the Sheiks get to buy our best horses for stud, could they lower the price of crude to less than $100 a barrel?

Signed, Conservative in the Ozarks.
you don't have to be in the middle east to benefit from the high price of oil.
have you seen Exxon Mobils profits??
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:11 AM
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I realize I'm about to get my head handed to me for asking this question.... But is there anyone who feels we are already sending these people enough money as it is. Gas is over $3 a gallon. If the Sheiks get to buy our best horses for stud, could they lower the price of crude to less than $100 a barrel?

Signed, Conservative in the Ozarks.
A drop in the bucket. Compared to their outlandish wealth, the amount they will get from US wagering is not even worth the time it will take for their accountants to count it.

IF they are even getting a piece of the US wagering pie (others on the board are much more equipped to answer that question).
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Old 03-29-2008, 10:56 AM
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I realize I'm about to get my head handed to me for asking this question.... But is there anyone who feels we are already sending these people enough money as it is. Gas is over $3 a gallon. If the Sheiks get to buy our best horses for stud, could they lower the price of crude to less than $100 a barrel?

Signed, Conservative in the Ozarks.
Dubai primarily handles the money from neighboring countries. They aren't a superpower in the oil business.

It would be difficult for the oil companies to continue exploration and drilling if the barrel goes below $100. Sure there is plenty of oil left, it's just not as easy to get to.
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