mccarron to tvg

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

McCarron was a great rider. It doesn't hurt that he rode two of my favorite horses though...Sunday Silence and Tiznow. The horses that he rode always seemed to be able to gut out the win in close races.

I take back what I said about you when I defended you at the time you were compared to PG1985.

The horses he rode always seemed to gut out the win in close races???

I can think of few weaker jocks in that department.

He was notorious in the 80s for waiting too long! Ferdinand beating Alysheba in the classic is a nice example off the top of my head.

[CSC]

First of all is Vic Stauffer the true Vic Stauffer here?
Secondly haven't we decided that jockies are overrated anyway?
Thirdly while Mccarron was hardly a slug of a Jockey, he did happen to give one of the worst rides in Preakness history on Touch Gold, though TG did stumble at the break, it was a nightmarish trip beyond belief or certainly of a jockey of Mccarron's stature.

Originally Posted by CSC

First of all is Vic Stauffer the true Vic Stauffer here?
Secondly haven't we decided that jockies are overrated anyway?
Thirdly while Mccarron was hardly a slug of a Jockey, he did happen to give one of the worst rides in Preakness history on Touch Gold, though TG did stumble at the break, it was a nightmarish trip beyond belief or certainly of a jockey of Mccarron's stature.

Now you've got me wondering.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Now you've got me wondering.

I was always a fan of the "straight and strong" signature. Every announcer has to have an unique thing that distinguishes themselves. That one works for me.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I pretty much hate all riders and I don't follow Cali racing as much as NY, so i don't know what he was like in the 80's. But, do you really think he waited too long in that Classic? I'll have to watch it again, but I thought I remember seeing him get into Alysheba pretty early, like before they even hit the turn.

yeah, perhaps 20 years has clouded my memory and i could stand to watch the race between ferd and sheba again.

however, there really were far too many times mccarron waited and waited and waited.

his ride on sheba in the belmont was very typical of his thinking. i'm not saying sheba would have beaten bet twice that day, but taking him that far back in a race where speed rules (despite the distance) was typical of his poor tactical thinking. sheba was a much faster horse than generally recognized (by fast i mean he had very nice tactical speed) and if he had been more forwardly placed, the race could easily have come out differently.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

if he had been more forwardly placed, the race could easily have come out differently.

Your memory is very clouded.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Your memory is very clouded.

Go do some more spaghetti!

My point being, as you know already, that had he been used more intelligently in the race, he'd have gotten second instead of fourth, and there is no doubt he'd have finished much closer to Bet Twice than he did.