Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Reload this Page Try to name a worse Grade II winning colt...
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
Page 3 of 5 < 12 3 45 >
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 03-25-2008, 06:46 PM
ateamstupid's Avatar
ateamstupid ateamstupid is offline
Super Mod.. and Super Fly
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 13,036
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by slotdirt
God bless his soul, but what about A Huevo? He won the DeFrancis IIRC.
Huh? A Huevo was very good when right..

What about Arcangues? Can't recall if he did anything besides the BCC win.
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 03-25-2008, 06:52 PM
Bigsmc's Avatar
Bigsmc Bigsmc is offline
Goodwood
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,577
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Huh? A Huevo was very good when right..

What about Arcangues? Can't recall if he did anything besides the BCC win.
I think a bad back was his undoing. If I remotely remember correctly.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 03-25-2008, 07:10 PM
Cajungator26's Avatar
Cajungator26 Cajungator26 is offline
Keeneland
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hossy's Mom's basement.
Posts: 10,217
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Court Vision?
Why?
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 03-25-2008, 07:49 PM
Cajungator26's Avatar
Cajungator26 Cajungator26 is offline
Keeneland
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hossy's Mom's basement.
Posts: 10,217
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Because he's not very good?
There are horses in this crop that are worse IMO.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 03-25-2008, 07:54 PM
eajinabi's Avatar
eajinabi eajinabi is offline
Churchill Downs
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,755
Default
Air Commander
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 03-25-2008, 08:00 PM
Cajungator26's Avatar
Cajungator26 Cajungator26 is offline
Keeneland
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hossy's Mom's basement.
Posts: 10,217
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Agreed. It was sort of a joke.


Quit making fun of It's No Joke.
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 03-25-2008, 08:03 PM
miraja2's Avatar
miraja2 miraja2 is offline
Arlington Park
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,157
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sightseek
Cowtown Cat
I guarantee that Cowtown Cat is EXACTLY the ninth worst G2 winner of all-time.

I have no idea who the top eight might be, but he is without question number nine on that list.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 03-25-2008, 08:08 PM
Cajungator26's Avatar
Cajungator26 Cajungator26 is offline
Keeneland
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hossy's Mom's basement.
Posts: 10,217
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by miraja2
I guarantee that Cowtown Cat is EXACTLY the ninth worst G2 winner of all-time.

I have no idea who the top eight might be.
Must be the 16th worse...
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 03-25-2008, 08:09 PM
miraja2's Avatar
miraja2 miraja2 is offline
Arlington Park
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,157
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Must be the 16th worse...
I still don't know what went wrong there.
Him finishing 16th sure looked like the lock of the century.
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 03-25-2008, 08:11 PM
KirisClown's Avatar
KirisClown KirisClown is offline
Stuck in 1994
  
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,089
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by ateamstupid
What about Arcangues? Can't recall if he did anything besides the BCC win.
Arcangues wasnt great, but he wasnt terrible..

Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 03-25-2008, 08:17 PM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,940
Default
sir cherokee
__________________
Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all.
Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 03-25-2008, 08:26 PM
philcski's Avatar
philcski philcski is offline
Goodwood
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Posts: 8,872
Default
Freefourinternet?
__________________
please use generalizations and non-truths when arguing your side, thank you
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 03-25-2008, 08:34 PM
Cajungator26's Avatar
Cajungator26 Cajungator26 is offline
Keeneland
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hossy's Mom's basement.
Posts: 10,217
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by philcski
Freefourinternet?
WTF?!!!

Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 03-25-2008, 08:44 PM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default
While not exactly the worst....the dams of Rags To Riches and Discreet Cat weren't so hot....

Other than PD's one insane performance in the slop anyway.




Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 03-25-2008, 08:47 PM
philcski's Avatar
philcski philcski is offline
Goodwood
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Posts: 8,872
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajungator26
WTF?!!!
He sucked pretty bad... but he did beat my guy Perfect Drift
__________________
please use generalizations and non-truths when arguing your side, thank you
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 03-25-2008, 08:53 PM
Indian Charlie's Avatar
Indian Charlie Indian Charlie is offline
Goodwood
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 8,708
Default
ever a friend.
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 03-25-2008, 09:05 PM
RolloTomasi's Avatar
RolloTomasi RolloTomasi is offline
Oriental Park
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,612
Default
Latin American (Californian)
Drag Race (Del Mar Futurity)
Martial Law (Big Cap)
Lang Field (Citation)
Pt's Grey Eagle (Ancient Title)
Scrimshaw (Lexington)
Zappa (San Pasqual)
Pure As Gold (Bing Crosby)
Forest Secrets (Acorn)
Delegant (San Juan Capistrano)
Elmhurst (BC Sprint)
Mill Native (Arlington Million)
Caltech (Budweiser International)
Success Express (BC Juvenile)
Wild Syn (Blue Grass)
Big Ten (Californian)
The Groom Is Red (Champagne)
Tri To Watch (Champagne)
Gold Fever (NYRA Mile)
Coin Silver (Lexington)
Siphonizer (Del Mar Futurity)
Mongoose (Donn)
Roi Normand (Meadowlands Cup)
Moon Ballad (Dubai World Cup)
Matty G (Hollywood Futurity)
Wild Escapade (Hopeful)
Lucky Roberto (Hopeful)
Oh What A Windfall (Matron)
Ahn Duong (Matron)

The Lexington at Keeneland, the Californian at Hollywood, and the Hollywood Turf Cup (too numerous to count), seem like big offenders.
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 03-25-2008, 09:07 PM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default
Scrimshaw could actually really run.

He was one of DWL's finest pieces of pure butchery.
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 03-25-2008, 09:11 PM
RolloTomasi's Avatar
RolloTomasi RolloTomasi is offline
Oriental Park
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,612
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Scrimshaw could actually really run.

He was one of DWL's finest pieces of pure butchery.
I think he had a bad throat so I doubt he would have done much despite Lukas. I know his first couple of sprints were pretty sharp, including a victory over subsequent stakes horses Eye of the Tiger and Ghostzapper in a SA allowance.

You reminded me of Going Wild, though, and Ten Cents A Shine, horses of (looking to the sky above with my left hand at chest level) promise...without the necessary means...necessary means...of a higher education.
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 03-25-2008, 09:21 PM
dylbert dylbert is offline
Gulfstream Park
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 1,209
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Free Spirits Joy won the Super Derby when it was a Grade 1 race with a $1 million purse. He was 35/1 and rode the rail under Borel (who probably carried the same buzzer that day as he did when he rode Rockamundo and Seek Gold)

Best Pal, Olympio, and Lite Light were all in that race.
I think your buzzer statement is a bit over the top. I was there and watched race from apron. Fastest horse won, period.

Shippers like Best Pal from California did not like hot, humid conditions that afternoon. Free Spirits Joy was well acclimated to ambient conditions. FSJ was Louisiana-bred based at LaD. Also, it has been documented by others, such as Steve Davidowitz in his last edition of Betting Thoroughbreds, that track was packed, rock hard, superhighway along rail. Another testament is final time 2:00.4. Atypically fast when compared with previous 1-1/4 mile editions of Super Derby in that era.

As for Borel, Boo just schooled out-of-towners with his "home court" advantage of knowing that rail was lightning fast that day. Jockeys are like shippers because sometimes they don't like new surrondings.

Now, I do concur that FSJ is one of the worst Grade I winners ever.
__________________
@wire2wirewin
Turf Economist since 1974
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 3 of 5 < 12 3 45 >

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:39 PM.

Contact Us - Derby Trail Steve Byk Steve’s Notes DT Stables DT Shoppe Gallery Contact Links Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.