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Old 03-18-2008, 02:07 PM
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I have always been a better "win" bettor than exotic player. Finding the right horses to go underneath has always been a thorn in my side. Therefore, anytime I would find a longshot I liked, I would bet to win or play a multi-race wager, even if the other 2 or 3 races were hard to find any value. Needless to say, I was banging my head against the wall quite often.

I finally have worked hard on structuring sound exotic tickets. It's has been difficult for me to change my game as such, but I know in the long run this is the way to go when I find these types of longshots.
Longshots on top takes guts, but that leads you to the massive scores. One guy who plays out of Chicago is a solid handicapper, who finds longshots all the time. But where he really excels, is sticking with those convictions and hammering the horse. Not necessarily with just a win bet, but singling the horse in the P3 or P6... the true separator mentality (granted, singling an 8-1 would probably fall into this category, I'm not saying just 20-1's). Right now, I don't think I have the guts to single my longshots.

Takes guts, and skill...
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Old 03-18-2008, 08:00 PM
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Thank you so much for answering my ? guys. I had never even thought about some of these ways to do these bets. HOpefully i can put some of these structures into motion. With the season really getting cranked up im starting to make bets study the drf and made my first bets since Nov. last week. Needless to say im rusty but hopefully will be able to get back on the bike. Something else that ive noticed is that i only cash a couple "good" tickets most seasons but those are the ones that give me the best shot at a profit at the end of the season. I WOULD LOVE TO MEET ALL YOU GUYS ON THIS BOARD SOMETIME, and learn in person what you all do. A lot of you on here really know what your doing and i appreciate the knowledge that you all share with a newbie. Thanks.
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Old 03-18-2008, 08:36 PM
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I can't tell you how many times I screw up my exotic wagers. I used to always bet the longest part flat just so I could keep firing at them. But somewhere along the way I quit doing it. I also forget to look up at the board and watch the odds. I had a horse go off at 80-1 and win easy. Then watched as the horses I boxed him with stop running and someone I don't have get up at the wire and I have nothing but a story.

yesterday I saved $8 and it cost me $1,500+
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Old 03-19-2008, 02:25 AM
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Longshots on top takes guts, but that leads you to the massive scores. One guy who plays out of Chicago is a solid handicapper, who finds longshots all the time. But where he really excels, is sticking with those convictions and hammering the horse. Not necessarily with just a win bet, but singling the horse in the P3 or P6... the true separator mentality (granted, singling an 8-1 would probably fall into this category, I'm not saying just 20-1's). Right now, I don't think I have the guts to single my longshots.

Takes guts, and skill...
For the longest time, betting a longshot to win was the only way I would bet them. Didn't take me too long to figure out the "all or nothing" plays I was making was not the way to go. Then I was playing them in the multi-race wagers, and had the same results 99% of the time.

I don't have the guts to single a longshot in a multi-race wager, either. In the past, I was doing it more out of inexperience (my wife called it stupidity ). In the past 9 months, I have done this once. It did pay off, but it was one of those "once in a year" horses that jumped off the page at me.

Kudos to the guy you know in Chicago. I only hope to get close to that level someday.
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