Odd musings for a very early Saturday AM...

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Not just talking about Warmbloods and Draft horses either. Even some light breed horses....

It depends on the individual...

That's why I gave the average number in the first place.

You would find a lot of vets that would disagree with the accuracy of those numbers from that conference for every horse.

No offense, Jess...

I will go with Pais on anything she says regarding young thoroughbreds (which is the breed in question.) She has a lot more experience than you in regards to raising them. Our experience in the hunter/jumper world has very little to do with the racing industry.

To answer your question in regards to bone growth, it depends on which bone growth plate you're talking about and the breed of horse.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

No offense, Jess...

I will go with Pais on anything she says regarding young thoroughbreds (which is the breed in question.) She has a lot more experience than you in regards to raising them. Our experience in the hunter/jumper world has very little to do with the racing industry.

To answer your question in regards to bone growth, it depends on which bone growth plate you're talking about and the breed of horse.

You just helped my argument. The NAVC was referring to all horses...not just Thoroughbreds. Those numbers cannot be taken at face value.

All I was asking for was the age range of when horses' bones are fully mature. In other words, the age range of when their bones stop maturing and growing. That is all I wanted to know.

Because I have had experience in both worlds and had extensive conversations with those who have worked in all the different fields in both worlds, the racehorse world and show horse world are not very different at all in alot of aspects. The horses breed the same, give birth the same, hunter Thoroughbreds mature and develop the same as racehorse Thoroughbreds, legs are iced after race/show jumping round, foaling barns are ran the same way, surgeries are the same, and yearlings are prepped for a sale in the same manner that we would prep a yearling for an in hand class minus the steroids, not trimming with scissors after the mane has been pulled, and not braiding. There are a lot of differences, but a lot of similarities.

No one on here except for one knows of my experiences or endeavors, and even that person hardly knows all of them. Nor will anyone on here know the extent of them. You are not qualified to speak on them.

Believe who you want to believe. I don't care.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

You just helped my argument. The NAVC was referring to all horses...not just Thoroughbreds. Those numbers cannot be taken at face value.

All I was asking for was the age range of when horses' bones are fully mature. In other words, the age range of when their bones stop maturing and growing. That is all I wanted to know.

Because I have had experience in both worlds and had extensive conversations with those who have worked in all the different fields in both worlds, the racehorse world and show horse world are not very different at all in alot of aspects. The horses breed the same, give birth the same, hunter Thoroughbreds mature and develop the same as racehorse Thoroughbreds, legs are iced after race/show jumping round, foaling barns are ran the same way, surgeries are the same, and yearlings are prepped for a sale in the same manner that we would prep a yearling for an in hand class minus the steroids, not trimming with scissors after the mane has been pulled, and not braiding. There are a lot of differences, but a lot of similarities.

No one on here except for one knows of my experiences or endeavors, and even that person hardly knows all of them. Nor will anyone on here know the extent of them. You are not qualified to speak on them.

Believe who you want to believe. I don't care.

How many foaling barns in the racing industry have you worked in? How many champs (racehorses) have you had the opportunity to raise first hand? How old are you? 21?

Spare me.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

How many foaling barns in the racing industry have you worked in? How many champs (racehorses) have you had the opportunity to raise first hand? How old are you? 21?

Spare me.

amen.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

How many foaling barns in the racing industry have you worked in? How many champs (racehorses) have you had the opportunity to raise first hand? How old are you? 21?

Spare me.

I don't have to prove my worth on an internet message board. Those who matter to me know.

Can I ask you a question. Does experience outweigh knowledge and talent? Just because someone has more experience with horses, does that make them more knowledgeable that a starting out veterinarian?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I don't have to prove my worth on an internet message board. Those who matter to me know.

Can I ask you a question. Does experience outweigh knowledge and talent? Just because someone has more experience with horses, does that make them more knowledgeable that a starting out veterinarian?

Hun, she knows more about this stuff than you do. I'm sure there are things that you are more knowledgeable about, but this isn't one of them. Sorry.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Hun, she knows more about this stuff than you do. I'm sure there are things that you are more knowledgeable about, but this isn't one of them. Sorry.

Like I said, I'm not going to prove my worth. Everytime I do, it is viewed as bragging.

My statements above were correct. Experience isn't a good gauge of overall knowledge. It doesn't matter that I am 22. I could provide a million examples of how true those statements are in reality in the horse industry. And you certainly to not know my experience either.

She can't even tell me the age range that horses' bones stop growing...

I am done with this. It is pointless. I'm arguing against someone who is supposed to be more knowledgeable than me but can't answer a question. Happens all the time on this board.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Like I said, I'm not going to prove my worth. Everytime I do, it is viewed as bragging.

My statements above were correct. Experience isn't a good gauge of overall knowledge. It doesn't matter that I am 22. I could provide a million examples of how true those statements are in reality in the horse industry. And you certainly to not know my experience either.

She can't even tell me the age range that horses' bones stop growing...

Has the thought occurred to you that maybe she doesn't want to answer you? Maybe she doesn't want to argue all day when there are other things she could be doing. Nobody can win an argument with you, Jess. You always have to be right... I've never seen a topic that you weren't considering yourself the 'expert' on.

By the way, experience means a lot more than what you read in books. Almost anyone can pick up a book and gain the knowledge that you speak of. Real life experiences are what mold us and shape us into what we are. If I had a choice between two doctors; one who had been in practice for 20 years and one who had just begun, I would take the more experienced one any day of the week. Why? Because knowledge is very little without the experience that goes along with it.