oracle wonder lady/ holly time

[mp3]

3yofilly of the year if she wins the bama?

[Gander]

Any chance we'd see Wait a While, or has she found her home on the turf?

Seems like a huge pot though and wouldnt be stupid if Pletcher took a shot with her. Shes beaten some of these before.

[mp3]

i hear she is running in a 400k g1 turfer in cali. pletcher will likely run adieu

Originally Posted by mp3

i hear she is running in a 400k g1 turfer in cali. pletcher will likely run adieu

I think Adieu is Test bound is she not?

Originally Posted by mp3

i hear she is running in a 400k g1 turfer in cali. pletcher will likely run adieu

I think Adieu might run this weekend in the test. I still like Jones filly there.

[mp3]

how many horses have won the cca oaks and alabama?

Originally Posted by mp3

how many horses have won the cca oaks and alabama?

I think Moms Command and Sky Beauty did. I will look it up. Its quite a daily double!

[mp3]

if that is it and with the rich history of both of those races it would require bushfire to win a classic at a classic distance to take it from here. I dont believe the turf fillies will recieve nearly the consideration as the dirt fillies. alsi did ieah buy that gulch horse or was it someone else?

Originally Posted by Gander

Any chance we'd see Wait a While, or has she found her home on the turf?

Seems like a huge pot though and wouldnt be stupid if Pletcher took a shot with her. Shes beaten some of these before.

only in the mud Tim, on a dry track she hasnt. I think shes turf bound anyway. As great as her last race was, I doubt that they would tinker with it. He may enter her though if it looks like rain, shes exceptional in the mud.

Originally Posted by Gander

Any chance we'd see Wait a While, or has she found her home on the turf?

Seems like a huge pot though and wouldnt be stupid if Pletcher took a shot with her. Shes beaten some of these before.

She looks like a much better turf horse. You would think WLA will have to beat Bushfire in the Gazelle to win the division. WLA sort of got screwed in the Acorn, but Bushfire has 3 grade 1's already.

Originally Posted by boldruler

She looks like a much better turf horse. You would think WLA will have to beat Bushfire in the Gazelle to win the division. WLA sort of got screwed in the Acorn, but Bushfire has 3 grade 1's already.

I'm not real sure about that. A CCA/Alabama double is as good as an Ashland/Acorn/Goose trifecta in my opinion. But if Bushfire won the gazelle it would be as good as over. End of the year performances definitely count more with voters than early year performances do.

Originally Posted by oracle80

I'm not real sure about that. A CCA/Alabama double is as good as an Ashland/Acorn/Goose trifecta in my opinion. But if Bushfire won the gazelle it would be as good as over. End of the year performances definitely count more with voters than early year performances do.

No knock on WLA, but she still has to beat that Shug horse and a few others. Bushfire got a big break with the WLA scratch but WLA is going to also have to beat Bushfire in the Gazelle. It is possible, considering 9F might not be Bushfires favorite distance. Pine Island is also in the picture with a Alabama win.

Originally Posted by boldruler

No knock on WLA, but she still has to beat that Shug horse and a few others. Bushfire got a big break with the WLA scratch but WLA is going to also have to beat Bushfire in the Gazelle. It is possible, considering 9F might not be Bushfires favorite distance. Pine Island is also in the picture with a Alabama win.

First of all she has already beaten the Shug horse. 2nd of all she would never run in both races. Its too close and too much. Bushfire is ducking the classic distance races because she cant go that far, thats why they chose the Gazelle. Noone in their right mind passes the Alabama to run in the Gazelle if they think they can win the Alabama. On a broodmare's resume, winning the Alabama has like 5 times the kick of winning the Gazelle.

Originally Posted by oracle80

First of all she has already beaten the Shug horse. 2nd of all she would never run in both races. Its too close and too much. Bushfire is ducking the classic distance races because she cant go that far, thats why they chose the Gazelle. Noone in their right mind passes the Alabama to run in the Gazelle if they think they can win the Alabama. On a broodmare's resume, winning the Alabama has like 5 times the kick of winning the Gazelle.

I think you are right, but the Eclipse is what they are after. You put 4 grade 1's up it doesn't matter what anyone does. It is a smart move by the Bushfire people because she obviously likes Belmont. WLA would have to win the BC race to take it from her. You would think they might meet in the Beldame but I don't see either beating the older mares. I still think Shugs horse might turn out to be the best of the three, but if WLA could win the two Grade 1's at the distance she will probably be a more valuable horse. Just make sure the rain holds off.

Originally Posted by mp3

3yofilly of the year if she wins the bama?

That would be very tough to say. Lady of venice coudl still rebound and win more big races and Wait A While's only race on grass this year was great. Should she go on and wina bundle on grass she also could get the award. Today's voters are somewhat savvier than they used to be and figures that they run go into the voting process. WLAL and Bush do not run monster figures(although WLAL rana 98 Beyer last out) and I think that one of the grass mares could get the award before its all said and done.