3/1 (SA): Big Cap & Kilroe (Gr. I's)

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

we will see if war monger is the real deal

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

without the trip this time id make em 3-4th best..

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

without the trip this time id make em 3-4th best..

hmmmmmmmmm

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

He didn't win man and you were right, but it's not like you liked the winner. Good call on him not being as good. It's a long year. he'll make a splash still. The winner was an allownace horse who Clement, who can train. Now Mitchell has him and he's a grade 1 winner? Doesn't seem plasible, but hey, Mitchell's been doing it for years.

Mitchell is either a genius or a criminal..Horse crushes a reasonable field of Grade 2 talent from 62 claimers.. hard to take this game serious sometimes

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Mitchell is either a genius or a criminal..Horse crushes a reasonable field of Grade 2 talent from 62 claimers.. hard to take this game serious sometimes

Agreed. I mean, at least step him up in distance and class a little bit before winning a grade 1 after doing almost nothing but sprinting.

The biggest joke was that he was only 9/1.

[ArlJim78]

watch him come right back and win with Big Booster,
not impossible.

[TitanSooner]

was going to bet Tiago until this race.. thinking about betting Big Booster now..

33-1 ??

[King Glorious]

The lines between claimers and stakes horses doesn't exist anymore. Used to be that there was a clear distinction. Not anymore. This winner was just running in claimers. The current favorite for the Big Cap was in optional claimers in November. The winner of the grade two at Gulfstream today is a claimer. The horse that finished second in the Stymie is a claimer.

[pick4]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Agreed. I mean, at least step him up in distance and class a little bit before winning a grade 1 after doing almost nothing but sprinting.

The biggest joke was that he was only 9/1.

I thought Ever a Friend was an underneath horse. I did not think he would destroy this field like he did. Chris Clement kept him to turf spriints last year and he ran well but I'm surprised he only ran him once at a mile or over.

He should not have been dropped in for a tag but it looks like the owner did not want him anymore. His original owner passed away and it looks like his wife does not share his enthusiam of owning racehorses as she has dropped a number of horses in for a tag since Peter Karches passed away.

[Danzig]

i also like war monger.

as for the 'cap....who the hell knows?!

[tiggerv]

Big cap is going to be a great betting race

[wac]

I have to agree on War Monger, i think he is the real deal as i've followed him since he got thru his madien at Bel i think. Im partial to War Chant horses esp on the T. You guys have any concerns about the T out there? Just seems like an odd course too me sometimes.I think its a pretty good move by trainer/owner as i "think" they think they have a horse that can be competitive in the BC races whichever one they choose to go after.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

hes very good ...but..maybee not as good as some of these without the trip..he may be a very good one day ill try to beat em here ....

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

hes very good ...but..maybee not as good as some of these without the trip..he may be a very good one day ill try to beat em here ....

I don't think anything is very good in the Kilroe. War Monger would be a near cinch to have his coming out party were it not for the presence of Kent Desormeaux, who is capable of anything. In fact, did anyone else think it was ridiculous when Kent D. sent this same horse out to a near 5 length lead in the Jamaica last September in his stakes debut, when he had shown a monstrous turn of foot in a pair of come-from-behind victories leading up to that race?

Out of Control is OK, but tends to move a bit too soon which dramatically blunts his stretch punch. War Monger should eat him up late, especially with the layoff. Storm Military is suspect on class as he was decidedly flat in the solid San Gabriel field sandwiched between two good efforts in lesser company. Willow O Wisp can't win at Turf Paradise, pace factor only. Ariste Royale and Mr. Napper Tandy are outclassed bridesmaids. Ever A Friend has been training well but I'm not sure if a mile or graded company is his game.

Anticipating War Monger to be bet down heavily if he isn't ML favorite already.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

he will be bet no doubt, he should have been beat last out by soldiers dancer.who went 15 wide..
the 4 artist royal goes with rafie and cuts way back..training very well the 5 storm military need only step up abit imo the 3 is going to be tough. out of controll is just faster than war at the 6f and the mile......