Winning Colors vs. Rags to Riches

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Rags to Riches

You weren't even alive, much less a preposterous know-it-all, when Winning Colors was running.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You weren't even alive, much less a preposterous know-it-all, when Winning Colors was running.

So, I have all of her races on tape.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

So, I have all of her races on tape.

That's true, I forgot, you are an expert at judging horses from television.

Last year, for instance, you told us just by seeing the Tampa Bay Derby on television that there was no way Street Sense would even run in the KY Derby much less win it.

As long as you continue your medical school charade I seriously hope the US doesn't take tort reform seriously.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That's true, I forgot, you are an expert at judging horses from television.

Last year, for instance, you told us just by seeing the Tampa Bay Derby on television that there was no way Street Sense would even run in the KY Derby much less win it.

As long as you continue your medical school charade I seriously hope the US doesn't take tort reform seriously.

At least I didn't say that Lawyer Ron was slow or that Lost in the Fog wasn't that good of a horse.

And horse racing experts agree with me about Street Sense and the Tampa Bay Derby. Something was amiss with that horse all winter, and it showed up again before the Belmont Stakes in his workout. You don't add front wraps to a horse for no reason.

BTW, Street Sense was my pick after the BG stakes to win the Derby because whatever was wrong with him was temporarily fixed, and he looked really nice in the BG stakes despite finished second.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

At least I didn't say that Lawyer Ron was slow or that Lost in the Fog wasn't that good of a horse.

And horse racing experts agree with me about Street Sense and the Tampa Bay Derby. Something was amiss with that horse all winter, and it showed up again before the Belmont Stakes in his workout. You don't add front wraps to a horse for no reason.

Lost in the Fog was one of the most overrated horses of my lifetime. A very nice, and well managed, horse but not even close to the horse people pretended he was. The fact that you don't know that is even further, unnecessary, proof of how little you really know while pretending to know everything.

As for the racing experts comment......note to self.....don't read your posts while eating or drinking.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Lost in the Fog was one of the most overrated horses of my lifetime. A very nice, and well managed, horse but not even close to the horse people pretended he was. The fact that you don't know that is even further, unnecessary, proof of how little you really know while pretending to know everything.

As for the racing experts comment......note to self.....don't read your posts while eating or drinking.

I just spit my drink out. Lost in the Fog...overrated? You have got to be kidding me...

This statement really doesn't even warrant a response, so I won't even try. It won't do any good anyway.

I do not pretend to know everything. I do not know everything. No one does. It is horse racing.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Not to jump in the party late and as tragic as Lost in The Fog's story is, how is he not overrated? Not counting his final race, as he was running with cancer, the only race where he faced a decent field he was soundly beaten. He was a nice story and he was good, you don't win like he did if you are not. But he was certainly not the unbeatable monster some made him out to be. Take your ridiculous emotion out of it for a second and look at it.

You are overestimating her.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Not to jump in the party late and as tragic as Lost in The Fog's story is, how is he not overrated? Not counting his final race, as he was running with cancer, the only race where he faced a decent field he was soundly beaten. He was a nice story and he was good, you don't win like he did if you are not. But he was certainly not the unbeatable monster some made him out to be. Take your ridiculous emotion out of it for a second and look at it.

That emotion was the reason he was a great toss out as a huge underlay in the BC Sprint.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

At least I didn't say that Lawyer Ron was slow or that Lost in the Fog wasn't that good of a horse.

And horse racing experts agree with me about Street Sense and the Tampa Bay Derby. Something was amiss with that horse all winter, and it showed up again before the Belmont Stakes in his workout. You don't add front wraps to a horse for no reason.

BTW, Street Sense was my pick after the BG stakes to win the Derby because whatever was wrong with him was temporarily fixed, and he looked really nice in the BG stakes despite finished second.

lemme go get my boots on, it's getting deep in here.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

At least I didn't say that Lawyer Ron was slow or that Lost in the Fog wasn't that good of a horse.

And horse racing experts agree with me about Street Sense and the Tampa Bay Derby. Something was amiss with that horse all winter, and it showed up again before the Belmont Stakes in his workout. You don't add front wraps to a horse for no reason.

BTW, Street Sense was my pick after the BG stakes to win the Derby because whatever was wrong with him was temporarily fixed, and he looked really nice in the BG stakes despite finished second.

Can you please let me know who these experts were so I can be sure to never read anything else they ever write and to laugh at them on sight? Something was amiss with him all winter. That explains why he won the Derby and ran the eventual HOY to a nose in the Preakness in the spring. The front wraps were added to further prove your point. That explains why he was able to win the Travers in the summer.

Look. After the Tampa Bay Derby, I was also on here saying that it wouldn't surprise me if either he or AGS were knocked out because it may have been too much, too early. What that's called is being wrong. It's ok to be wrong dear and to admit it. It's much better than sticking with the BS like you are doing now.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Can you please let me know who these experts were so I can be sure to never read anything else they ever write and to laugh at them on sight? Something was amiss with him all winter. That explains why he won the Derby and ran the eventual HOY to a nose in the Preakness in the spring. The front wraps were added to further prove your point. That explains why he was able to win the Travers in the summer.

Look. After the Tampa Bay Derby, I was also on here saying that it wouldn't surprise me if either he or AGS were knocked out because it may have been too much, too early. What that's called is being wrong. It's ok to be wrong dear and to admit it. It's much better than sticking with the BS like you are doing now.

wasn't there something involving a record at tampa as well??? might explain that too. obviously something wrong.
just think what he could have done had everything been just right?!

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Can you please let me know who these experts were so I can be sure to never read anything else they ever write and to laugh at them on sight? Something was amiss with him all winter. That explains why he won the Derby and ran the eventual HOY to a nose in the Preakness in the spring. The front wraps were added to further prove your point. That explains why he was able to win the Travers in the summer.

Look. After the Tampa Bay Derby, I was also on here saying that it wouldn't surprise me if either he or AGS were knocked out because it may have been too much, too early. What that's called is being wrong. It's ok to be wrong dear and to admit it. It's much better than sticking with the BS like you are doing now.

I have admitted that I was wrong repeatedly about the statement that I would be surprised if he would make it to the Derby. I will not say who the experts are. They speak over most heads, and they will be called wrong because most can't understand. However, I will not admit that I was wrong about the statements of him having soundness issues because I am not wrong.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I have admitted that I was wrong repeatedly about the statement that I would be surprised if he would make it to the Derby. I will not say who the experts are. They speak over most heads, and they will be called wrong because most can't understand. However, I will not admit that I was wrong about the statements of him having soundness issues because I am not wrong.

Honestly, Jessica... most thoroughbreds have soundness problems. Pointing out one that is actually sound would showcase your knowledge much better.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I will not say who the experts are. They speak over most heads, and they will be called wrong because most can't understand.

This is great stuff.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I have admitted that I was wrong repeatedly about the statement that I would be surprised if he would make it to the Derby. I will not say who the experts are. They speak over most heads, and they will be called wrong because most can't understand. However, I will not admit that I was wrong about the statements of him having soundness issues because I am not wrong.

If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it, does it really make a sound?

If an expert makes an observation and nobody understand it cause it's wrong, is he really an expert?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

So, I have all of her races on tape.

she got you there btw!

[Indian Charlie]

From what I've seen from both fillies, it's pretty obvious that WC at 3 was considerably better than R2R.

However, I thought prior to R2R getting hurt, that she hadn't shown us her best yet and that she was continuing to improve. The potential was there for R2R to be a better filly, especially since AP Indy's tend to get better with age, but speaking strictly as 3 yos, no contest.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

From what I've seen from both fillies, it's pretty obvious that WC at 3 was considerably better than R2R.

However, I thought prior to R2R getting hurt, that she hadn't shown us her best yet and that she was continuing to improve. The potential was there for R2R to be a better filly, especially since AP Indy's tend to get better with age, but speaking strictly as 3 yos, no contest.

Exactly. Based on accomplishments you would have to give it to WC, but Rags to Riches is the greater talent of the two. The Belmont Stakes proved it. Rags could get any distance, and was improving. WC obviously had distance limitations.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Exactly. Based on accomplishments you would have to give it to WC, but Rags to Riches is the greater talent of the two. The Belmont Stakes proved it. Rags could get any distance. WC obviously had distance limitations.

Oh, now I get it, the better horse is always the one that would win at the farthest possible distance. Thank God that's finally cleared up.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Oh, now I get it, the better horse is always the one that would win at the farthest possible distance. Thank God that's finally cleared up.

I can't wait for the new addition of the Jazil wing to the Hall of Fame.