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Old 02-22-2008, 02:49 PM
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I guess it doesn't really matter either way, but it seems at this point that there would be plenty of 3yo stakes races for this colt that would not qualify as either difficult or competetitve.

It's his first start in what may well be a very demanding year. He has the advantage of being under no pressure whatsoever of having to prove himself.
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:57 PM
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It's his first start in what may well be a very demanding year. He has the advantage of being under no pressure whatsoever of having to prove himself.
I get that, and I get that it has been done in the past.
I guess I just don't exactly understand the point to it.
It seems to me like if Zito had announced weeks in advance that he was targeting a pretty low-level stakes race with this colt, most of the mid-level 3yos would probably have avoided that race and he could have landed himself in another very easy spot with a bigger purse than what he is seeing here.
Again, I know it doesn't really matter either way, I just don't see any real disadvantage to running in a stakes race instead.
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Old 02-22-2008, 03:21 PM
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I get that, and I get that it has been done in the past.
I guess I just don't exactly understand the point to it.
It seems to me like if Zito had announced weeks in advance that he was targeting a pretty low-level stakes race with this colt, most of the mid-level 3yos would probably have avoided that race and he could have landed himself in another very easy spot with a bigger purse than what he is seeing here.
Again, I know it doesn't really matter either way, I just don't see any real disadvantage to running in a stakes race instead.
Problem is, where can you find such a race around one turn? With the Holy Bull being turned into a Preakness prep and the Hutcheson and Swale moved really early in the racing calendar there is no such race anymore.
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Old 02-25-2008, 08:16 AM
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It's his first start in what may well be a very demanding year. He has the advantage of being under no pressure whatsoever of having to prove himself.
Are you saying what I think you are saying............................................ .................................................. .................................................. ......................"He has Done enough" lol

Actually he actually has...Did Whip have a winner at GP a few days ago if so send him congrats from me please.
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Old 02-25-2008, 08:20 AM
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My posts don't have hidden agandas.

Yeah, he did. I'll tell him.
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Old 02-25-2008, 08:30 AM
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My posts don't have hidden agandas.

Yeah, he did. I'll tell him.
Thx I was just fooling around with WP..
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Old 02-25-2008, 08:31 AM
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My posts don't have hidden agandas.

Yeah, he did. I'll tell him.
what did the FOY Beyer come back? 98ish?
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Old 02-25-2008, 08:34 AM
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what did the FOY Beyer come back? 98ish?
It isn't listed on the Beyer leaderboard on drf. Lowest Beyer on the list is 95.
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Old 02-25-2008, 08:49 AM
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It isn't listed on the Beyer leaderboard on drf. Lowest Beyer on the list is 95.
Hmmm... seems low then. Don't know the 8F/9F split at the "new" Gulfstream but typically 1 mile @ 1:36.38 should equate to about 1:49.20 at a mile 1/8 at similar size tracks (like AQU outer, so 12 4/5 for the extra furlong). So .3 faster than the FoY, or about 2 lengths, so maybe 4 Beyer points.
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Old 02-25-2008, 09:07 AM
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I assume they are waiting until the final time is absolutely certain but I'll check.
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Old 02-25-2008, 08:39 AM
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What was Zaftig's fig? Did it come back fat?
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