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Originally Posted by moodwalker

I just meant grass runners.....wasn't insulting either horse.


While Ivan has been miserable over in Europe, he might come over here and lay it on our horses like I said previously.

There is a difference in the Euros more often than not when they come over here, and I think that difference is that we don't have very good turf runners.

The Euros don't just automatically get good when they cross the big pond.

They have some really nice horses by Ivan just isn't one of them. I see why O'Brien would take a chance against the weak 3yr old grass horses, and I figure he is coming over for something else anyway, but Showing Up and Go Between can run, especially at 10F. Ivan has been a huge disappointment this year.