Now Peta is after Pedro Martinez

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cardus

I laugh when I read the indignation of liberals and radicals who, while condemning the fighting of cocks, might say in another venue -- usually its political or artistic -- that all cultures are equal.

I'm fairly confident when I conclude that the American culture is far superior to the Dominican culture.

Im a liberal and would never say that the US culture is superior when it comes to issues of animal cruelty.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

Im a liberal and would never say that the US culture is superior when it comes to issues of animal cruelty.

As a liberal it is your duty to tear down anything American

[SentToStud]

Every time I hear the term PETA, I see the image of that Swedish singer who appeared on some awards show about 10 years ago with a goose around her neck.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Every time I hear the term PETA, I see the image of that Swedish singer who appeared on some awards show about 10 years ago with a goose around her neck.

bjork (icelandic singer) in a swan dress at the 2001 oscar's is the closest i can come to this.

icelander's are a murderous culture known for their "fishing" tradition.

they are almost as bad as the horrible cheese eating dutch.

oh, how i hate foreigners.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

As a liberal it is your duty to tear down anything American

true....where would you like me to start.....weather?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

true....where would you like me to start.....weather?

We have great diversity in weather in America

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Actually, I was making two separate statements.

First, the liberals' hypocrisy of condemning a cultural activity (cockfighting) because it disagrees with a narrow agenda (animal cruelty), while maintaining that generally cultures are equal.

Secondly, I concluded that generally, our culture is far superior to the Dominicans' culture, of which I have a pretty good grasp.

The fighting of dogs and cocks is banned in America -- save the exception that you provided -- but is legal in La Republica Dominicana, and you believe that our mores of animal treatment are not more enlightened that those espoused in Santo Domingo?

I was not making any commentary on dominican culture as I know little about it....however my mother lived there for many years. If you say our culture is superior then I have no argument for you.


but it's all relative....
we house animals in 'factory farms' and have little protection for the animals in our food supply, "downer" cows for example....they view cock fighting as sport, we view it as cruelty. Here these coporate farms are viewed as the 'food supply' I view it as cruelty.

[paisjpq]

perhaps it's itellectual laziness....or perhaps i don't feel the need to argue about it point by point on an internet message board. I'm not our gal KYRIM.

I don't consider myself the most informed person on the subject....I am however far from ignorant.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Sometimes -- and this is a case of it -- the "it's all relative" argument is intellectual laziness.

I can see the qualitative difference between the culture of a nation that bans these activities and the culture of a nation that legalizes and regulates it. To me, it's clear.

When it comes to animal rights though it truly is all relative.

I look at the person who goes out and hunts for sport and can't see how they can call themselves animal lovers and then condemn other people going to dogfights.

Yet I am sure there are vegetarians out there that would be appalled that I would condemn hunters and call myself an animal lover yet I eat meat from slaughtered animals.

And I'm sure there are people that go to dog fights or cock fights and yet they would truly consider themselves animal lovers.

In the case of animal rights it really isn't intellectually lazy to say that "it's all relative" cause it is.