Some Saturday Beyer Figures

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

100% correct.

A beyer speed figure is an adjusted final time.
It does not tell you anything else about the race shape, or the quality of the specific animal, or the quality of the race.

Invasor in his prime could have run in that race and he probably gets "only" a 92 or 94 beyer for holding off a Pyro charge. Either that or the "art" takes a greater role and Invasor awarded a higher beyer in line with projections and justified by a greater variant, and then Grasshopper and Indian Blessing get even higher figures...

Even a superior horse will score beyers that are subject to the race shape, if their style is to be rated to win the race, and not pushed to beat the clock.

More so on the turf?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

With 2 of the great minds of this website now discussing this race, this thread has some kind of potential. I can't wait to see it all unfold.

you win 3200 and life is good.. I remember when I scored that kind of monster money the first time..I was high as a kite.. I remember not going to second period math and just counted the fifties one by one.. Oh to be 14 again..

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I shouldn't be such a smart alec, but it was too easy. Side note, I caught Spotsgone's race on Saturday. He's no world beater but he is a neat little horse. Stakes wins on turf and dirt and shows up everytime.

That is the truth. The Oaklawn strip played pretty well to frontrunners on Saturday but this guy went quick early then held them off gamely in a nice performance.

I've held his Sea O'Erin against him as I foolishly needed the 2nd place finisher to get up for the tri and super and this guy just kept on going. The other amazing thing about him is that he seems to pay well every time.

NT

[philcski]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

That is the truth. The Oaklawn strip played pretty well to frontrunners on Saturday but this guy went quick early then held them off gamely in a nice performance.

I've held his Sea O'Erin against him as I foolishly needed the 2nd place finisher to get up for the tri and super and this guy just kept on going. The other amazing thing about him is that he seems to pay well every time.

NT

He paid like $150 to win that mile race at Arlington, one of the highest payoffs of the entire year last year that I could remember

[Sightseek]

What a neat horse Euroears has become.

I'm going off memory, but wasn't this the first race that Grasshopper rated off the pace?

It looks like Borel has commited to Turf War, Grasshoppers full bro, for his Derby mount.

[brianwspencer]

Loved Spotsgone on Saturday and then managed to not cash a dollar on him. He's a neat horse who's turned into a decent animal.

He's no world beater, but he tends to always show up and has now managed to steal two Grade III races and a turf race in the past year. He's the type of horse who's easy to love because it seems that no matter how fast he goes, he has shown the ability to get very brave on the front end.

On top of that, Saturday marked the fifth time in the last year that he got the better of Gouldings Green in their five meetings, and if memory serves me right -- at a much better price than Gouldings Green in each of those five races.

In other news from Oaklawn, Sweet Redeemer looked solid winning the closer. Second out, got bet down to 5-2 favoritism, raced well behind the early pace and simply cruised once let loose around the turn. Not likely to be a champ, but definitely an interested horse to keep an eye on given the close over a track that wasn't playing overly kindly to that type of runner on Saturday.

[Kasept]

Thread re-opened and back on topic. Disintegration into the previous craziness, and those creating such, will be given short shrift...