Castellano is one lucky rider

I have to agree with Joel, Bernardini is going to be better than Ghostzapper. I don't see him losing again this year.

As for Castellano, he did make one mistake this year. He chose Corinthian over Showing Up and lost the mount to C. Velasquez. He could be riding the top dirt horse and grass horse if he stuck with Showing Up.

[Gander]

The way he won that race yesterday reminds me of the way Ghostzapper won his races towards the end of his career. Both tremenbdous talents, pretty obvious but remains to be seen just how long Bernardini will be on the racetrack. Lets hope a while.

Was thinking Strong Contender would be a great bet in the Travers but after watching Berardini yesterday, I may as well flush my money down the toilet and save the standing in the heat & humidity all day long.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by boldruler

I have to agree with Joel, Bernardini is going to be better than Ghostzapper. I don't see him losing again this year.

Can't see him losing again? I guess you should jump on the 4-1 future odds at http://www.wsex.com/cgi/zshow_bets?44381 on Bernardini winning the BCC! Even if there's just a 50% chance he makes the race, you'd be getting an effective 2-1. That's pretty good for a horse you can't see losing. (I truly apologize for my tone, but statements like "can't see him losing" drive me slightly crazy.)

I can personally see lots of ways Bernardini can lose. Maybe 100 ways, even. The easiest ways, however, are Flower Alley, Lava Man, and Invasor.

That's not to say that I don't like this horse. I like him a LOT. He's run 2 huge races. But I'm not even close to being ready to annoint him the 2nd coming of Spectacular Bid. To argue his superiority over Roses In May and Ghostzapper is ridiculous, IMO. (As if the field in the Jim Dandy can be compared with the Dubai race or RIM's BCC!)

--Dunbar

btw, if you DO want BCC future action on Bernardini, you'd almost certainly do better waiting for Pinnacle and TheGreek to post their odds.

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Can't see him losing again? I guess you should jump on the 4-1 future odds at http://www.wsex.com/cgi/zshow_bets?44381 on Bernardini winning the BCC! Even if there's just a 50% chance he makes the race, you'd be getting an effective 2-1. That's pretty good for a horse you can't see losing. (I truly apologize for my tone, but statements like "can't see him losing" drive me slightly crazy.)

I can personally see lots of ways Bernardini can lose. Maybe 100 ways, even. The easiest ways, however, are Flower Alley, Lava Man, and Invasor.

That's not to say that I don't like this horse. I like him a LOT. He's run 2 huge races. But I'm not even close to being ready to annoint him the 2nd coming of Spectacular Bid. To argue his superiority over Roses In May and Ghostzapper is ridiculous, IMO. (As if the field in the Jim Dandy can be compared with the Dubai race or RIM's BCC!)

--Dunbar

btw, if you DO want BCC future action on Bernardini, you'd almost certainly do better waiting for Pinnacle and TheGreek to post their odds.

I'll stick with betting on the race on race day. Right now I really like Flower Alley in the Whitney, Showing Up in the Secretariat, and Henny Huges in the Kings Bishop. I don't see how any lose and I think all go off around 3-2. I am thinking about a 3 horse parlay, maybe turn $1000 into $15-16,000.

[JJP]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Can't see him losing again? I guess you should jump on the 4-1 future odds at http://www.wsex.com/cgi/zshow_bets?44381 on Bernardini winning the BCC! Even if there's just a 50% chance he makes the race, you'd be getting an effective 2-1. That's pretty good for a horse you can't see losing. (I truly apologize for my tone, but statements like "can't see him losing" drive me slightly crazy.)

I can personally see lots of ways Bernardini can lose. Maybe 100 ways, even. The easiest ways, however, are Flower Alley, Lava Man, and Invasor.


--Dunbar

I still don't know what the fuss is over Flower Alley. I can understand with Lava Man, although a lot of that is his versatility and his rise from claiming fame. But are the connections of Bernardini worried about Flower Alley or Invasor? I doubt it. Are the connections of FA and Invasor worried about Bernardini? If they aren't, they should be.

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by JJP

I still don't know what the fuss is over Flower Alley. I can understand with Lava Man, although a lot of that is his versatility and his rise from claiming fame. But are the connections of Bernardini worried about Flower Alley or Invasor? I doubt it. Are the connections of FA and Invasor worried about Bernardini? If they aren't, they should be.

I agree, I'll take Bernardini over Flower Alley anyday. Lava Man and Invasor are much better than Flower Alley in my opinion.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by JJP

I still don't know what the fuss is over Flower Alley. I can understand with Lava Man, although a lot of that is his versatility and his rise from claiming fame. But are the connections of Bernardini worried about Flower Alley or Invasor? I doubt it. Are the connections of FA and Invasor worried about Bernardini? If they aren't, they should be.

Gee, he only ran a close 2nd to the best horse last year as a 3yo...

With a carefully planned campaign and given he may improve as a 4yo, he'll be very difficult to deal with and you better have your A game to beat him...

Whenever Lava Man can take his game on the road and win, that's when I will take notice. I admire him, but gutting out wins against Ace Blue, doesn't get me excited....

It's hard to say right now who will win between Bernardini and Flower Alley, they both have upside...